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We have a contractor who comes into to service our passenger lift. They have told us that we need supply a safety barrier around the lift area when they are servicing it. I understand that the lift is our responsibiltiy however it is never repaired/serviced by anyone else except this company. The doors are not particularly wide. I'm not quibbling about buying the barrier if I have to but surely as they are specialist lift contractors they would have these types of barriers with them as a matter of course?
Thanks
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Robert,
I speak from experience as an ex lift engineer, each lift should have its own safety barrier, when not in use it should be stored in the lift motor room.
It is good practice for the engineer to put the barrier in front of the shaft at the level the engineer is working at, if for example the engineer has to go down in to the lift pit, he would place the barrier in such a postion that the public would not be able to pass it and save them falling down the shaft.
It would be impossible for the engineer to carry around these safety barriers in his van, as firstly they take up to much room, and secondly as owners of the lift you need to supply all relevant safety equipment that should be on site at all times.
you wouldnt expect the AA or RAC to carry around your Jack and spare wheel, you provide your own equipment even if they are called to assist you.
Sean
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"you wouldnt expect the AA or RAC to carry around your Jack and spare wheel, you provide your own equipment even if they are called to assist you."
Sean, I'm not sure the analogy is correct - I carry the spare wheel - but they provide the jack [The one in the car is for me to use if necessary]
And they park their motor to protect mine - I don't have to carry the crash protection.
However, I do agree that it is could be viewed as sensible to have a 'lift barrier' or two on site. But - it surely it's provision could well depend what your service contract says
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Alan,
if you read the beginning of my reply, i did state that i was a lift engineer and was speaking from experience.
Just to repeat, no engineer is going to be carrying around safety barriers, its just not practible and secondly if an inncident took place, say for example the fire brigade attended to release a trapped passenger, would you expect the fire brigade to supply their own safety barriers and leave them on site once they had openned the doors?
there has hardly ever been an occasion where i have gone to a breakdown and the barriers are not stored in the motor room.
the cost of a barrier is insignificant compared to the cost of buying and having a lift fitted, and also the cost of its service plan, and a safety barrier is normally supplied when the lift is delivered, its part of the package, same as your car Jack!
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Part of my role is Facilities Manager and I concur with Alan, they are your lifts and you have to provide and maintain suitable safety barriers for them.
This should have been picked up by your insurers when they attend site for their annual safety inspections who would have advised you that its your responsibility to provide the safety barriers. They are a must have i'm afraid.
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Sorry, the post above should say 'I concur with Sean'
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Many thanks for your advice. Thought that might be the answers I would get but thought I would double check anyway.
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