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Does anybody know what the minimum requirements are for this?
I have this to produce and maybe deliver and at the moment am considering apporox 1 and half to 2 hour course (including assessment) for employees.
Any information would be helpful
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Currently am considering as a topic list
Fire Procedure, Background/Legislation, Fire Triangle, Methods of Fire Spread, Effects of Smoke, Signage, Extinguisher awareness, Reducing Likelihood of Fire/Fire Spread (compartmentation/fire doors)Role/Function of Fire Wardens, there will be an assessment of learning at the end of the session.
This will be delivered to all employees.
Do you think this is overkill?
Any suggestions?
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IsafeUsafe Have you looked at what the requirements from the Regulatory Reform Fire Safety Order requires, tells you what you need supply to employees, as a minimum,
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Sorry, I maybe should have stated that I am in Scotland. So it is Fire (Scotland) Act 2005 and Fire Safety (Scotland) Regulations 2006,these are pretty non descript and and guidance is about as much help - as per risk assessment. Have spoken to/been involved with brigades before and where they did say something it it did not tie up.
My employer, basically want's to show employees the fire exit and that's it.
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If this is just a Fire Awareness Course - then the time scale sounds ok.
I don't think you can really have overkill on the content, better more information and less risk than less information and more risk.
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IsafeUsafe Does it matter if your in Scotland or not, if regs used dont help then info from others that do cant do any harm, worth a look at maybe? if your doing more than required then must be better than not achieving aim.
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I should have maybe also said that I am with a large council service delivery arm and functions include:
Roads construction/maintenance, Grounds Maintenance, Waste Management, Fleet maintenance, Building Services, Training Delivery, Cleaning, Catering, Administration, and Supplies/Distribution.
My aim is to produce a generic course that can meet basic requirements for all employees and then have specific add ons for higher risk such as building services, roads, and fleet.
Issues that have arisen are that senior management will not want to send employees on a 1 hour course if they only work one hour a week and turnover on employees is 10% per annum....
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So the 1 hour that they work wont have any chance of a fire, prosecutions in Scotland obviously take account that training is only related to time worked not to severity of harm. Council imune to prosecution ? if not what is the cost of loss and prosecution as to cost of training.
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SteveL you understand the management, completely.
We are also a unitary authority so we are the fire brigade as well.
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So you know the cost, use the regulations for what they are and place the onus on the management to comply or take the responsabilty of prosecution, allow them to push the liabilty up because as you know sooner or later responsabilty will be assumed
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Hi, In the past I provided basic fire safety training for council employees and agree with the above comments. Prior to doing the training we were sent on the 1 day fire service training exercise at either Moreton-in-Marsh or Chorley. The course I ran was typically 1-3 hours depending upon the risk/role of staff involved. Although the info presented is obviously important I found in addition the following to be particularly effective: 1. Short video e.g. bradford fire and BRE office or house fire. 2. Split the trainees into 3 groups and ask each group to list in order exactly what they should do if they came across a small fire, heard the fire alarm, or were trapped in a room on the 1st floor. 3. At the course end we set off a range of fire extinguishers everyone handling each type. Staff certainly enjoyed the course and found it effective, in addition the local fire service were more than happy with the content/format. Steve
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IsafeUsafe You might find this link useful. For example it clearly states that in simple situations, what to do and where the exits are can be adequate! Also may I challenge the belief that training has to happen in a classroom and away from the workplace. There have always been other ways to do this and in the 21st century it is even easier. For example, compare costs of an e-based approach against all that time and travel. Managers will always find it difficult to support travel for training whatever the subject. If they can find links like this one then they may well challenge your plan. http://www.westsussex.go.../asset/?asset_id=3651745
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