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firesafety101  
#1 Posted : 04 May 2010 14:32:55(UTC)
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firesafety101

I see in another topic somebody has suggested the "NEEC" has been dropped, if so does this mean that cost should be no object or obstacle in the quest for health and safety?
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 04 May 2010 14:57:44(UTC)
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bob youel

I was refering to BAT in Environmental terms and as I asked if I am out of date can somebody up date me/us?
ahoskins  
#3 Posted : 04 May 2010 16:19:46(UTC)
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ahoskins

This comes from the 1992 EPA which to my knowledge hasn't been amended.

If anyone knows otherwise though...
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 05 May 2010 00:25:33(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

This SEPA document "PPCSGN3 –Determining BAT for Part B Activities." (as an example) confirms that BAT has superseded BATNEEC, and then goes on to suggest that they are (in practical terms) one and the same.
redken  
#5 Posted : 05 May 2010 09:38:09(UTC)
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redken

"Best Available Techniques (BAT) are required to be considered (under EC Directive 96/61) in order to avoid or reduce emissions resulting from certain installations and to reduce the impact on the environment as a whole. Use of BAT is required by us when licensing the major potentially polluting industries under the IPPC legislative regime. BAT takes into account the balance between the costs and environmental benefits"

Nothing at all to do with H&S. We have, or did have, our reasonably practicable
firesafety101  
#6 Posted : 05 May 2010 10:15:04(UTC)
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firesafety101

So - are you saying that certain emissions into the atmosphere relating to dangerous substances is no longer health and safety?

"General duty of persons in control of certain premises in relation to harmful emissions into atmosphere."
redken  
#7 Posted : 05 May 2010 10:30:26(UTC)
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redken

Yes that is right, we now have all this environmental legislation.
jay  
#8 Posted : 05 May 2010 10:55:53(UTC)
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jay

Section 5 of HASAWA was repealed by Environmental Protection Act 1990, about 20 year ago.
firesafety101  
#9 Posted : 05 May 2010 10:59:18(UTC)
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firesafety101

jay wrote:
Section 5 of HASAWA was repealed by Environmental Protection Act 1990, about 20 year ago.


I must have slept well that day zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz - am I really that old it only seems like yesterday :-)

Thanks for the update, I now wonder what else I've missed?
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