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Hi all
Im after a bit of advice. Basically, we made a device ourselves (our metal boys) which holds a bolt in place, so we can service it with fluid and turn the nut, due to it being seized.
One of our lads is saying they are refusing to use the device, due to it "having no certification". Im under the impression this lads just trying it on. Where do we stand in relation to it being an internally made device, i.e. no manufacturer? As a company we understand that any liability would come back on us, rather than a manufacturer, and as far as im aware its not a legal requirement to have a BS mark on a piece of equipment.
Any PUWER experts here?
Best regards.
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more info needed e.g. is this a bit of safety criticial kit etc?
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All it is, is a bit of kit to hold a scaffold fitting in place while we service the not (from being seized). it is instead of using a vice.
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what sort of certification does he expect? do all the tools in his tool box have bs kite marks?
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Seems a bit of a try-on. We had a similar discussion thread on safety knives not so long ago. There are a myriad of tools and equipment out there in every day which are not covered by BS/EN/ISO or any other standard. Most forms of clamp (as a pertinent example, being other ways to hold a bolt or similar object in place) are not covered by standards.
Do speak to your people though, and see if there are any genuine safety concerns.
I would suggest it is long-established practice for the tool-room of any engineering concern to come up with local solutions as you describe, along with a variety of jigs, fixtures etc. to enable the main processes of production.
Perhaps there is a confusion arising from some previous instruction, training or tool-box talk?
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You've probably already done this, but just a thought...why not ask the guy if he's got a suggestion for a better bit of kit that he would be happy to use? It's just possible he's got an idea up his sleeve...
Failing that, I agree it sounds like a try-on to me.
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I would ask how they did this task before without this tool, and as Ron states what are the genuine safety concerns
My guess is that it takes a benifit away from those that do it, reduces manning for the job, or time taken to do it.
Steve
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