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safetyman2010  
#1 Posted : 12 May 2010 09:24:31(UTC)
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safetyman2010

Had to stop work on contractor and raise a near miss yesterday as the came across contractor dismantling a 2 storey height scaffold with exposed edges and no fall restraint or other protection. The company had been assessed and approved based on their H&S policies, and having qualified scaffolder and they had submitted risk assessments and method statement (generic) which included scaffolding erection and dismantling and contractors held Construction skills cards including working at height awareness training. The risk assessment stated that were guard rails were removed, fall restraint must be worn. This was not followed by operators. They complained they had no anchorage point and there was no other way of securing thenmselves during the task. I'm not a construction safety provision and have limited experience of scaffolding practices but i know the requirements of WAH Regs. They have been stopped pending an investigation but for my knowledge I'm looking for some guidance or instruction document regarding how to safely dismantle scaffolding (approved method) when guard rails have to be removed during the task. This is not large scale scaffolding but 2 storey scaffolding regulary installed at site for maintenance and repairs access/egress. Thanks for the help!
Alan Haynes  
#2 Posted : 12 May 2010 10:17:51(UTC)
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Alan Haynes

safetyman2010 wrote:
.......... The risk assessment stated that were guard rails were removed, fall restraint must be worn. This was not followed by operators. They complained they had no anchorage point and there was no other way of securing themselves during the task. .............
As they had to change how they do the work [no anchorage points] the contractor should have submit a revised RA/MS for Acceptance/Approval, and you were right to stop them working. Its up to the contractor to give details of how they now propose to carry out the work - after all, they are the 'experts'.
bob youel  
#3 Posted : 12 May 2010 10:18:11(UTC)
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bob youel

It sounds looks like a standard case of good documentation to win the work but no reality management thereafter e.g. standard industry practice before people shout at me; There are some really good scaffold compaines out there who practice in reality what they preach via documentation
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 12 May 2010 12:21:57(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

A visit to the NASC website might prove informative. There is a video clip currently running there showing what should be done (essentially, you clip on to a vertical standard). http://www.nasc.org.uk/Publications_and_Guidance You say you've stopped the work. I'd be wary of taking responsibilty for what is now an incomplete and potentially structurally unsound scaffold.
redken  
#5 Posted : 13 May 2010 11:56:38(UTC)
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redken

There is a supermarket, one of the big three, nearing completion in my area. As I walked to the dentist this morning I paused at the road junction and noticed the scaffolders erecting the scaffold. They were wearing hard hats but nobody could be above them; high vis vests but they were isolated on their platform; harnesses but they were not connected. These guys were only visible from the road not the site since they were on the outside of the building. In my experience and observation this is the norm.
firesafety101  
#6 Posted : 13 May 2010 12:06:56(UTC)
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firesafety101

You are right in stopping the work but was there no supervision on site? Is there a project manager who could have addressed the issue so as not to delay the work too long? Time is money !
safetyman2010  
#7 Posted : 13 May 2010 14:09:05(UTC)
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safetyman2010

Thanks for your replies. We have dealt with the situation now and awaiting the revised risk assessment and method statement from the contractor. Additional training is being provided by contractor to his employees in workign at height and additional staff to receive scaffolder training. Not permitted to continue until this is in place and approved. There is supervision from project leader but not constantly trhoughout the job. Thanks,
michaelc  
#8 Posted : 17 May 2010 18:26:15(UTC)
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michaelc

Hi I am a Grad IOSH HSP Practicioner currently working as an advanced scaffolder who works offshore. There is no excuse as we use a Jordan clamp which attaches to the vertical upright to give a safe anchorage point for an inertia reel and can be lowered as the job progresses,. Hope this helps you.
boblewis  
#9 Posted : 17 May 2010 19:57:45(UTC)
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boblewis

Safetyman One should however be careful about stopping work where the available guidance issued by the NASC and approved/accepted by the HSE does not formally require the use of harnesses below 4 metre as they are useless below this height. You have a classic caase of a MS written to meet some imposed standard when the Scaffolders are trained to the NASC document. This is not to say however that the work practice was necessarily good I am also moved to say that one has to be careful about tackling construction safety with little experience of the work. Bob
Steve Sedgwick  
#10 Posted : 17 May 2010 23:07:59(UTC)
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Steve Sedgwick

Safetyman If someone is working at height and there is a significant risk someone falling due to the method of work adopted then well done to you for stopping the job. Quite often when harnesses are mentioned people think that a shock abosorbing lanyard is, or should be attached. Hence the reason why the victim of a fall hits the ground when attached at low level. A work restraint harness will prevent a person reaching a position from which they could fall. A fall arrest system operates after a person has taken a fall. Please let us know how new risk assessment and new MS solves the problem Steve PS If the structure is now unsafe as suggested then its good that you got the scaffolders off it before someone got hurt.
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