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lenihan1974  
#1 Posted : 24 May 2010 11:51:03(UTC)
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lenihan1974

Hello I have been asked to take over & chair the quarterly H&S committee meeting in my company Apart from informing the attendees about the below I don't really have anything else to add as we are a low risk environment and nothing much has happened over the last 3-4 months 1. statistics on accident records, ill health, sickness absence 2. accident investigations and subsequent action 3. changes in the workplace affecting the health, safety and welfare of employees. What other topics can I discuss? Thank you
Jane Blunt  
#2 Posted : 24 May 2010 12:13:05(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

I suggest you add: Findings from inspections Legislative changes that are going to have an impact (e.g. changes in labelling of chemicals which are rolling out from now) Business or concerns raised by those at the meeting.
ianm69  
#3 Posted : 24 May 2010 12:28:23(UTC)
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ianm69

Why dont you look at changes and details on: First Aid/Fire warden arrangements, fire drills/evacuations, risk assessments, site inspections, your accidents and stats, HSE campaigns or ideas, legislative changes (provide them a summary/your interpretation), access problems to site, any HSE seminars/events etc...........
ricci  
#4 Posted : 24 May 2010 13:01:12(UTC)
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ricci

Do not forget to ask the Safety Reps if they want anything included. It better to know about it before the meeting than when sitting at it. A review of actions decided at the last meeting would also be needed.
stuie  
#5 Posted : 24 May 2010 13:06:12(UTC)
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stuie

What about any cases/incident/prosecutions in competitors or other similar industries/fields that you operate in? Or any new ideas or initiatives to motivate people to continue with the low incidence rate?
safetyamateur  
#6 Posted : 24 May 2010 13:20:52(UTC)
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safetyamateur

Lenihan, you'll find a comprehensive set of guidance under Reg 9 of the Safety Reps & Ctees Regs 96. This is for unionised staff but there's a very similar thing for non-unionised staff (Employee Rep Regs)
lenihan1974  
#7 Posted : 24 May 2010 14:03:20(UTC)
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lenihan1974

THANK YOU to all of you, this is good stuff. You have made my first posting a successful one :-)
chris.packham  
#8 Posted : 24 May 2010 14:19:39(UTC)
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chris.packham

You say that you are a low risk business, but not what this is. It is my experience that even in supposedly low risk businesses some chemical exposure can occur that could present a risk of skin problems. If you can let me know the type of business I could let you have some thoughts on this. Chris
Paul Duell  
#9 Posted : 24 May 2010 14:42:30(UTC)
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Paul Duell

As well as the suggestions above, I'd suggest a "No Surprises" rule at the meeting: Anyone raising a safety problem at the meeting should be prepared to answer the question "and what have you done about it so far?". You'll get a few where the issue only cropped up that morning, but even then they should be able to say "I've reported it to my manager, don't know what's happened since". At my last job, when I took over H&S meetings would go on for ages, mainly caused by the department safety rep's reports consisting largely of a long list of problems they'd spotted and saved for the meeting to report. It took us a long time to get the "No Surprises" rule working - even though it obviously got things sorted quicker to report them as soon as they were spotted. If you've got a chance to implement "No Surprises" from day one, you might have a much easier time (and more worthwhile meetings) than we did!
Ron Hunter  
#10 Posted : 24 May 2010 15:33:06(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

http://www.hse.gov.uk/in...vement/whattoconsult.htm Site includes free pdf of relevant INDG and HSG documents
lenihan1974  
#11 Posted : 24 May 2010 15:38:48(UTC)
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lenihan1974

Chris.Packham - It is the finance industry - typical office environment
lenihan1974  
#12 Posted : 24 May 2010 15:53:53(UTC)
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lenihan1974

Paul Duell wrote:
As well as the suggestions above, I'd suggest a "No Surprises" rule at the meeting: Anyone raising a safety problem at the meeting should be prepared to answer the question "and what have you done about it so far?". You'll get a few where the issue only cropped up that morning, but even then they should be able to say "I've reported it to my manager, don't know what's happened since". At my last job, when I took over H&S meetings would go on for ages, mainly caused by the department safety rep's reports consisting largely of a long list of problems they'd spotted and saved for the meeting to report. It took us a long time to get the "No Surprises" rule working - even though it obviously got things sorted quicker to report them as soon as they were spotted. If you've got a chance to implement "No Surprises" from day one, you might have a much easier time (and more worthwhile meetings) than we did!
I like the "No Surprise" rule - I think I will definitely implement that. Thanks Chris
lenihan1974  
#13 Posted : 24 May 2010 16:10:29(UTC)
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lenihan1974

lenihan1974 wrote:
Paul Duell wrote:
As well as the suggestions above, I'd suggest a "No Surprises" rule at the meeting: Anyone raising a safety problem at the meeting should be prepared to answer the question "and what have you done about it so far?". You'll get a few where the issue only cropped up that morning, but even then they should be able to say "I've reported it to my manager, don't know what's happened since". At my last job, when I took over H&S meetings would go on for ages, mainly caused by the department safety rep's reports consisting largely of a long list of problems they'd spotted and saved for the meeting to report. It took us a long time to get the "No Surprises" rule working - even though it obviously got things sorted quicker to report them as soon as they were spotted. If you've got a chance to implement "No Surprises" from day one, you might have a much easier time (and more worthwhile meetings) than we did!
I like the "No Surprise" rule - I think I will definitely implement that. Thanks Paul
stephendclarke  
#14 Posted : 24 May 2010 19:17:08(UTC)
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stephendclarke

Hi, In addition to above comments I think H&S committees need to be an integral part of H&S management. Some of their main functions are to: promote cooperation, investigate recurrent issues, examine accident trends, consider reports from HSE, develop H&S arrangements, monitor and review the H&S policy. Also in my experience the key factor in ensuring their effectiveness is to have a senior member of staff as chair. Regards Steve
Steve Sedgwick  
#15 Posted : 24 May 2010 21:56:03(UTC)
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Steve Sedgwick

As Stephenclarke says above this HS Meetings should be lead by a Senior Line Manager. The manager chairing the meeting needs the authority to commit resources to the points raised, the meeting otherwise will frustrate everyone and undermine the HS Management of the business. The HS Advisors role is supportative and advisory. Lenihan, sell the above to the the manager that gave you the job in the first place, provide him with the agenda, provide all the support materials, and you are on to a winner. Steve
lenihan1974  
#16 Posted : 25 May 2010 09:17:11(UTC)
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lenihan1974

Steve sedgwick wrote:
As Stephenclarke says above this HS Meetings should be lead by a Senior Line Manager. The manager chairing the meeting needs the authority to commit resources to the points raised, the meeting otherwise will frustrate everyone and undermine the HS Management of the business. The HS Advisors role is supportative and advisory. Lenihan, sell the above to the the manager that gave you the job in the first place, provide him with the agenda, provide all the support materials, and you are on to a winner. Steve
- Thanks Steve, I have full authority as I made sure this was a "must" before I took on the job. Tks
A Kurdziel  
#17 Posted : 25 May 2010 14:41:23(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

To have a good and useful H&S Committee you need: 1. An Agenda-stick to it- avoid Any Other Business-don’t have surprises 2. To get the papers out early so every one is briefed and understand what is being discussed. 3. Have short informal pre-meeting meetings with Trades Unions and others, to clear up trivialities before the main meeting. The main meeting should be for strategic review not local problem solving. 4. Use it to publish information incident stats and the like, get in reports from the Occupational Adviser but don’t let anyone hi-jack the meeting keep it to the point. 5. Get actions agreed and share them out around the people in the meeting, don’t dump it all onto the H&S team! 6. Time-The meeting should not go on longer than two hours. After that the brain slowly dies and it becomes pointless. I have been attending H&S Committees for ten years now man and boy, and there is nothing worse than going through the motions for 5 or 6 hours and thinking to your self” I’ll never have that time back”.
lenihan1974  
#18 Posted : 27 May 2010 14:47:49(UTC)
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lenihan1974

A Kurdziel wrote:
To have a good and useful H&S Committee you need: 1. An Agenda-stick to it- avoid Any Other Business-don’t have surprises 2. To get the papers out early so every one is briefed and understand what is being discussed. 3. Have short informal pre-meeting meetings with Trades Unions and others, to clear up trivialities before the main meeting. The main meeting should be for strategic review not local problem solving. 4. Use it to publish information incident stats and the like, get in reports from the Occupational Adviser but don’t let anyone hi-jack the meeting keep it to the point. 5. Get actions agreed and share them out around the people in the meeting, don’t dump it all onto the H&S team! 6. Time-The meeting should not go on longer than two hours. After that the brain slowly dies and it becomes pointless. I have been attending H&S Committees for ten years now man and boy, and there is nothing worse than going through the motions for 5 or 6 hours and thinking to your self” I’ll never have that time back”.
Thanks A, Lorna
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