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AllanGPetrie  
#1 Posted : 09 June 2010 14:35:23(UTC)
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AllanGPetrie

Hi,
quick query that hopefully someone else will have had experience of before. We are in a situation where we require to move some full 200litre drums with weights ranging from 135kg to 230kg. The movement will be approximately 30m down a slight incline. Due to location constraints (i.e. inside a small store, inside a building) it is difficult to get access to the area. It has been suggested to use a drum truck and having observed this for short distances it is do-able.

Before we commit to this, has anyone had any experience of this and would be able to give any advice/recommendations?

Thanks
Allan
db  
#2 Posted : 09 June 2010 14:43:41(UTC)
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db

Afternoon Allan,

Drum dollies are a good idea,

2 points though - given the weight you are refering to the drums have either a liquid or fine granular content - this will constitute a "live" load unless brimming the centre of gravity will shift when inclined placing an eccentric loading on the dolly. Ensure the dolly is 25% greater SWL than the load to compensate.

Place a lead block at the top of the slope (inexpensive) and attach a belay line (I can provide further details if required) to check the dolly (not the load) as it decends the slope. The rate of decent increases greatly with the dolly.

Yours aye

Db
Steve Sedgwick  
#3 Posted : 09 June 2010 14:45:42(UTC)
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Steve Sedgwick

Alan
do you know how the full drums were put into that elevated position in the 1st place. It may help with a solution.
Steve
auntysmash  
#4 Posted : 09 June 2010 14:56:43(UTC)
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auntysmash

Hi,

If you're talking about manual, wheeled drum trolleys, then I've used these a lot in the past. Even a very gentle incline (or otherwise uneven ground) can cause difficulties with the handling - they run away with you downhill and are much harder to push uphill than on the flat. If the drums are full, then tilting the drum up onto the trolley can be hard going in itself. If you can't find a suitable mechanical means to do this, then make sure you've assessed the manual handling task throroughly.

After we had assessed it, we trained the guys in the correct ways to handle the trolleys (always documented) and also restricted the task to the larger, fitter guys (and rotate the task as much as possible).

Lastly, check the integrity of the containers carefully. You don't say what you're handling, but we had many a leaky drum which splashed all over the lifter as soon as it was tipped up (this is especially an issue with the 'clip top' drums - but the 'bung' tops can also leak if the top isn't screwed down tight). Bear in mind environmental risks too if you're transporting these drums near drains or ground and one gets away from you.

Ta

Stu
AllanGPetrie  
#5 Posted : 09 June 2010 15:01:08(UTC)
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AllanGPetrie

Thanks All,

the drums themselves were filled in situ with a combination of cast iron pipe and soil/rubble waste following the removal of a contaminated waste pipe (very low levels of radioactivity). As a result the contents should not really cause much of a problem with regards to any instability of the loads.

I'm just slightly cautious over the activity due to the weight of the drums and want to ensure that we are going about this the right way. I'm struggling to find anything that we can hire which will do the task mechanically, so any advice on that would be welcomed as well.

Cheers,
Allan
paul.skyrme  
#6 Posted : 09 June 2010 15:09:33(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

AllanG,
Can you not get an flt in there and fit a drum attachment?
i have also seen small manual flt type lifts that are suitable for lifting drums, try Powell, here;
http://www.powellmailord...s+cylinder+handling.html

No business link but used them 20 years ago for stuff and they are still around.
auntysmash  
#7 Posted : 09 June 2010 15:47:39(UTC)
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auntysmash

Allan,

You have a PM,

Ta

Stu
teh_boy  
#8 Posted : 10 June 2010 07:59:47(UTC)
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teh_boy

Not sure if this is of help, they manufacture so can custom fit to your requirements - this is why I used them.

http://www.packline.co.uk/


(mods, I am in no way associated just used them to solve a similar problem :) )
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