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riskybizz  
#1 Posted : 11 June 2010 13:17:03(UTC)
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riskybizz

Hi all,

A contractor uses sub-contract labour to undertake work using a cement based product.
The control measures placed by the company are not adhered to, and the manager in charge of the work refuses to enforce wearing of protective clothing advised by the co. H&S advisor. Two persons suffered cement burns. How many breaches of legislation/acops/duty of care etc?
pete48  
#2 Posted : 11 June 2010 13:46:23(UTC)
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pete48

2 many?

P48
Safety Smurf  
#3 Posted : 11 June 2010 13:54:09(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

None. They would all be alleged breaches
riskybizz  
#4 Posted : 11 June 2010 13:57:42(UTC)
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riskybizz

Ok, so how many "alleged" breaches?
David H  
#5 Posted : 11 June 2010 14:19:00(UTC)
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David H

Ok - it would depend on what the company control measures were controlling, but at face value;

Sect 2
Sect 3
Sect 7
Steve Sedgwick  
#6 Posted : 11 June 2010 14:39:12(UTC)
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Steve Sedgwick

The Client, contractor and the sub-contractor are each likely to be responsible for the alleged breaches.

Use a different sub contractor in future and ensure some robust vetting procedures are in place before placing the contract.
Steve
RayRapp  
#7 Posted : 11 June 2010 14:59:31(UTC)
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RayRapp

As above, a joint liability could arise. Presumably this is not CDM notifiable otherwise the PC would have the onus to enforce site safety.
Steve e ashton  
#8 Posted : 11 June 2010 15:14:23(UTC)
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Steve e ashton

Answer...(as with so many other apparently simple questions on here) it depends.....

As a starter for 10 - if you want to throw the book at everyone.... I make it at least 45 - without trying to include beaches by the individual workers (two or more of them, two or three breaches each......)

Any advance on 45 ??


Client Company (11)
HaSaWeA - S 3.1
Mgt Regs Regs 3 / 5 / 7 / 11
COSHH 6 / 7
CDM??? Reg 4 / 6 / 9 / 11

Principal Contractor (15)
HaSaWeA - S 3.1
Mgt Regs Regs 5 / 7 /11 / 13
COSHH 6 / 7 / 8 / 10
CDM reg 4 / 5 / 6 / 19 / 22 / 24

Sub-contractor (19)
HaSaWeA - S 2.1 / 2.2a / 2.2b / 2.2c
Mgt Regs Regs 3 /4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 10 / 13
COSHH 6 / 7 / 8 / 10 / 11 / 12
CDM reg 4 / 5


Steve e ashton  
#9 Posted : 11 June 2010 15:16:50(UTC)
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Steve e ashton

oops forgot all the PPE regs breaches:- about ten of them ...
Safety Smurf  
#10 Posted : 11 June 2010 15:31:56(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Wow!

Somebody's busy this afternoon! ;-)

Think I'll fold now.
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