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I have a number of Polish workers in the workplace and have recently discovered that the FLT licences issued in Poland do not have expiry dates where my company policy is that FLT drivers must have valid licence acredited by RTITB and refresher training is required every three years. Experience tells me that even though the licence is valid, I should ensure that they undergo training as per the company policy.
However what should I do if someone presents a polish licence that was taken in 1999 and is over 10 years old
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Interesting problem! I have no idea whether a Polish FLT certificate can be considered "valid" in the UK but I would certainly require them to undergo an assessment of their skills and training by an RTITB instructor. They may not be considered as a novice as such but this would need to be assesed by a competent person. In addition although there is no legal requirement for refresher FLT training it is considered to be good practice and our policy where I work is the same as yours - mandatory refresher training every 3 years.
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Your site, your rules. If you have decided that FLT drivers are required to undergo refresher training and re-certification every 3 years then that is what all your drivers will have to do to comply.
Many employers go further: No driving on our site unless trained by us (or someone appointed by us), on our vehicles, on our site.
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I agree withe the above replies.
If these are competent drivers you just need to put them on a short course to verify theory and practical competence and licience them.
Steve
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Hi
Your new workers should have some familiarisation training for the FLT they are going to use, as who is to say that they trained on exactly the same model elsewhere. At the end of the training the instructor would assess them against the normal RTITB standards.
In some areas all this can come under the level 2 in mobile plant and therefor funded under train to gain. However, as things are changing (Gov wise) I am not sure if this will continue.
Regards
Linda
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FLT "licences" issued in UK do not have expiry dates either so what is the difference, you just apply your site/company rules
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Some refresher training of operators is a very good idea and 3 years seems to be the industry norm.
This is an excellent acop / guide The L117 Rider Operated Lift Trucks Operator Training approved Code of Practice and Guidance. http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l117.pdf
Steve
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Obviously there is no such thing as a FLT 'licence' as such it is a certificate of competence. And if we wanted to be picky about it there is no actual requirement in law for a certificate but it is the only accepted way of proving competence nof FLT drivers.
So you could argue that you cannot be sure that the competence levels required in Poland match those in the UK and that 10 years is a long time. Also what type of FLT were they trained to drive in Poland?
It would be best practice therefore to put them through a FLT certification course to ensure their competency.
3-5 years refresher is only a guidance and it really does depend on many other factors such as how often they drive them, whether they have been involved in an incidents etc.
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Surely it up to the company to prove competence.. That piece of Paper is not worth a BOLT.. It could be FORGED....Just because they have a ticket does not prove competence..
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I never accepted any certificate at face value from any operator. I have seen some shockingly incompetant operators even with uk accredited certificates. I have even spotted forgeries.
Assess them, and if they are reasonably good, give them a refresher course in your own environment.
Clairel is correct. No such thing as a "licence"
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Many thanks to you all for your advice, you have confirmed my thoughts. I have arranged refresher training for the persons concerned
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