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alan w houghton  
#1 Posted : 23 June 2010 08:38:15(UTC)
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alan w houghton

Come on England We have a small manufacturing outlet and I would like to change the lads hours to 4pm - 4am This will last for two weeks Do I need to get the lads to sign anything There will be 2 operatives 1 being a supervisor Cheers ALan
ricci  
#2 Posted : 24 June 2010 03:04:46(UTC)
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ricci

Would need some questions answered to answer yours. What are their current hours and what type of work is involved
bob youel  
#3 Posted : 24 June 2010 07:17:05(UTC)
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bob youel

why do you need to change the hours? the hours you quote; 16:00 to 04:00; is a 12 hour night shift I presume? Are you telling the lads to change; is it a mutual agreement More info is required
alan w houghton  
#4 Posted : 24 June 2010 07:51:48(UTC)
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alan w houghton

We have 4 fabricators they being split into two so we can man a folding machine as 12 hours are not enough to complete work in time They are working 16:00 - 4am so they can tie up with the lads work 6am - 4pm ie hand over Tha lads have mutualy agreed to work these hours however I was sure there was a shift working questionnaire needed completing Not sure hence asking question Thanks Alan
m  
#5 Posted : 24 June 2010 08:02:01(UTC)
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m

Given that this is short term and you have the agreement of the workers I don't think you need to dig too deep. You might want to consider transport home since 4am is not a great time on the circadian clock - especially after a long shift. Is it possible to arrange a taxi for them? Also need to consider that they will need to eat, is there a canteen? And access to HR and payroll where required. I am guessing there will be a 1-2 hour overlap at the start of the shift but give the guys priority.
Canopener  
#6 Posted : 24 June 2010 08:39:04(UTC)
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Canopener

I assume you are wondering if from a H&S point of view (as this is a H&S forum) but suggest you think contractually as well. You don't say what the overall hours, whether this will be over 48 hours, averaged over your agreed reference period or whether they have previously signed an opt out. If they are going to exceed the 48 hour limit (averaged) then they will need to sign or have signed an opt out, and this has be be individualy, not a collective agreement. If any of the 'lads' are 'young workers' you may have an issue with WTR and it is worth satisfying yourself by checking the guidance. Overall I can't see that you have a lot to worry about, or lots of signing to do.
Steve e ashton  
#7 Posted : 25 June 2010 13:49:03(UTC)
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Steve e ashton

Okay - a wee bitty education for some of the responders. Reg 7 of the working time regs... - (1) An employer - (a) shall not assign an adult worker to work which is to be undertaken during periods such that the worker will become a night worker unless - (i) the employer has ensured that the worker will have the opportunity of a free health assessment before he takes up the assignment; or (ii) the worker had a health assessment before being assigned to work to be undertaken during such periods on an earlier occasion, and the employer has no reason to believe that that assessment is no longer valid, and (b) shall ensure that each night worker employed by him has the opportunity of a free health assessment at regular intervals of whatever duration may be appropriate in his case. In this case - a four week shift change doesn't seem excessive, so a preliminary health assessment wouold probably be sufficient... Many commercial health assessment suppliers advertise on the interweb, and most refer to 'questionnaires' which may be where the OP has heard the expression. So yes. Health assessment should be offered. Steve I would ask why there's no cover from 4am to 6am...? If a handover is necessary, then the hours quoted don't meet up. Steve
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