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If we have a fatality at workplace, how do we establish no of days lost to calculate severity rates?
Any help?
Regards,
Prads
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Err...I would have thought that would be the last of your worries, unless it is a theoretical question. I suggest you ask the HSE, but please do post their reply...
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I cant ask HSE as I am based in the middle east. I have raised this question coz, one of our contractor had 3 fatalities this year. But their statistics on Severity Rate is only taking into consideration the lost days due to the LTIs/MTCs.
Rgds,
Prads
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I suggest that the method of gathering statistics is at fault.
I don't think you can honestly put in a notional figure into the Severity rate for a fatality.
The statistics gathering process should have a separate 'box' for number of fatalities for it to be meaningful.
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Prads
Whilst totally agreeing with Jane I think there may be a way if laterally thinking in method is used through probability. In probability a total certainty is 1 and the rest a decimal up to 1. So a death would = 1, disability =0.8, three day injury = 0.6, blood drawn but not three dayer = 0.4 and a near miss and no injuy = 0.2. Of course there will be variations and this is where a study of working with probability calculation may help you.
Now having put keyboard into print I'm sure others may wish to offer variations on what to score and how.
Badger
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I would suggest that your Severity Rate is your accident or incident severity rate.
You should measure your three fatalities as
Fatal Accident Frequency Rate (FAFR)
Fatality Rate (FR)
FAFR
No. of fatalities / No. hours worked *100,000,000
FR
No. of fatalities / No. of employees * 1,000
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We use a Fatality and Weighted Injury Rate based on the UK RSSB Classifications (Railway Safety & Standards Board).
1 Fatality = 10 Major Injuries (RIDDOR Major) = 200 Reportable Minor (RIDDOR non-major) = 1000 non-reportable minor (i.e. non RIDDOR)
We therefor report on FWI rate, like a traditional AFR but every 1,000,000 man hours where:
Fatality = 1
Major = 0.1
Reportable Minor = 0.005
Non-reportable Minor = 0.001
It gives a much more representative figure and Fatalities and Major injuries really stand out as being significantly greater than an LTI.
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Thanks everyone!
If I need to follow Barrie & Andy, does it mean that if I have 3 fatalities & 6 LTIs.
Fatalities :- 1x3 =3
>LTI : 0.8 x 6 = 4.8
Total = 7.8
AFR = 7.8 x 1,00,00,00/ Total Manhours
SR = 7.8 x 1000/ Average No of Employees
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Fatalities:- 1 x 3 = 3
>LTI: 0.1 x 6 = 0.6
Total = 3.6
and accordingly AFR and SR to be calculated.
Please correct me, if I got it wrong.
Regards,
Prads
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Sorry, if I follow Andy, then:-
1 fatality = 10 Major injuries, i.e 3x 10
Total 30 +0.6 = 30.6
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FWI Rate = ((Fat x 1) + (Maj x 0.1) + (Min Rep x 0.005) + (Min non rep x 0.001)) / hours worked x 1,000,000
From your example if you have s fatalities and 6 LTIs (assume RIDDOR reportable minor) and you've worked 1,000,000 hours then you would have
FWIR = (3 x 1) + (6 x 0.005) = 3.03
This is a very high rate and you'd want to set a target much lower than this say 0.1
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I have never put a great deal of store in all of these sort of statistics. It has always seemed to me that they are merely statisitics for the sake of, well statistics; mind you the auditors love them! They almost all deal with the outcome (which I accept is to many the bottom line) and does nothing to identify or deal with causation etc. Also seems to me that there is often a comparison between apples and pears i.e. often a meaningless comparision. I have had >3 day injuries that I regard being more significant to some major injuries that I have reported but the figures would not necessarily identify that or bear it out.
Just going to get my helmet and wait for the flak.
Me? I like Ray response. I too would be intersted to hear the HSE response LOL
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prads wrote:I cant ask HSE as I am based in the middle east. I have raised this question coz, one of our contractor had 3 fatalities this year. But their statistics on Severity Rate is only taking into consideration the lost days due to the LTIs/MTCs.
Rgds,
Prads Prads If you are working to OGP guidelines, then a "Catastrphic" event would automatically set off the alarms, so you would interview your subcontractor accordingly, and investigate their actions / follow up, then look at the LTIR / AAR seperately, I would guess though it is quite high with all of those fatalities. You working for "The Base" then or what?
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