Does the fact we have paid lunch breaks & he was representing the company affect the answer?= Yes in my opinion as the employer is 'gaining' from the situation so they have a liability for that 'gain' and that liability probably goes towards completing a RIDDOR as it could be argued [losely] that it was a work activity - A RIDDOR will not hurt in that case but to get the best advice ring the HSE A civil case may result as he was hurt when he was doing something on behalf of the company

I doubt it is work related in context of RIDDOR. The key question, even if "representing the company" in the rounders match is whether it was voluntary on part of the employee to participate or was it compulsory? How I wish we had the USA OSHA style regulations/rules for RIDDOR,, i.e. more prescrptive criteria! Then we would not have such grey areas reference below:- 1904.5(b)(2) Are there situations where an injury or illness occurs in the work environment and is not considered work-related? Yes, an injury or illness occurring in the work environment that falls under one of the following exceptions is not work-related, and therefore is not recordable. 1904.5(b)(2) You are not required to record injuries and illnesses if . . . (iii) The injury or illness results solely from voluntary participation in a wellness program or in a medical, fitness, or recreational activity such as blood donation, physical examination, flu shot, exercise class, racquetball, or baseball Source:- http://www.osha.gov/pls/...=STANDARDS&p_id=9636

Can you do that :-( I mean throw it in the bin, surely some guidance feedback is required? No wonder the authorities have such a bad name!

ha ha - can't you see that without feedback the person reporting the injury would think they have done the right thing and do it again? Twinklemel would have more time wasted and the bin would get more waste for the already over full waste management people etc. etc. Better to stop the reports in the first place - prevention at source.

Well, ChrisBurns and frankc, you've given me a giggle, but onto the matter in hand...... Yep, I can throw it in the bin, but of course I'd put it into our secure shredding bin and avoid using a shredder myself, as they are terribly dangerous, you know. ;-) Actually, I'm wrong again, because I wouldn't print it out in the first place - I'd just hit delete! Agree that it would be better to stop the report being made in the first place, but unfortunately some of the reports taken by the ICC are laughable. Probably comes down partly to training of the people on the other end of the phone at the ICC, but also to the guidance in the RIDDOR leaflet and employers' understanding of the Regs as they are most likely reporting online. I can't claim to know the decision-making process behind it, but our standard procedures and Enforcement Policy do not include instructions for enforcement officers to speak directly to employers and explain to them why they should not have submitted RIDDOR reports in the event that they have wrongly reported. However, chances are that I would raise it at the next visit. But hey, thanks to ChrisBurns for the vote of confidence: "No wonder the authorities have such a bad name! ". I'm afraid I've got 15 LPG installation inspections to do in the forthcoming weeks on top of accident investigations and programmed inspections, so I don't really have the time to phone back people who report rounders injuries!

So if the scenario goes to a claim for compensation and the statements include mention of the report under RIDDOR where does that leave anybody if there has been no feedback to suggest the report has not been accepted as a reported accident.

ChrisBurns, we use something called Incident Selection Criteria, which we apply to each RIDDOR report received. We complete that to show the reasons why we haven't selected that report for investigation. It's signed by me and my line manager and goes into the premises file. If, at a later stage, I'm asked for information on that report by, say, the injured party or a solicitor, I can produce that to show them that it wasn't investigated and I can explain why. Given the amount of wrongly reported accidents that arrive on my desk, there isn't actually a huge problem with people mis-reporting.

If you need confirmation just give the riddor help line a call explain the situation and they will tell you if it is reportable or not. Thats what i did recently they were really helpful and then at least you can have peice of mind that your following the right course of action. cres