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markblades  
#1 Posted : 06 July 2010 14:55:32(UTC)
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markblades

I don't know if anyone can help, but could you shine any light on the requirements under law for torque certificates for steel buildings? Thanks for reading.
markblades  
#2 Posted : 06 July 2010 15:20:27(UTC)
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markblades

To give a little more information on this matter. I run a construction company that erects prefabricated (frameless) steel buildings. I have been asked by the main contractor for torque certificates for the bolts in the building. Now, this building has 12,500 bolts in it and unlike a portal frame building does not rely on a small number of bolts to hold the framework together. In all the years I have been working for this company I have never been asked for this certificate. I have spoken to a structural engineer who has said that our kind of building does not require this and that torque certs and seldon asked for these days anyway.
Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 06 July 2010 16:07:55(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Presumably then, the design specifies a torque for all or some fixings? That being the case, presumably the method involved a calibrated torque wrench. Perhaps certificates tracing meter calibrations back to an approved test house would fit the bill? Personally I would have expected at least some of that (presumably critical) activity to have been witnessed or checked by CoW or similar.
markblades  
#4 Posted : 07 July 2010 10:33:15(UTC)
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markblades

The manufacturer of the building give a minimum and maximum torque value for the bolts used in the building and we are within these values. We have carried out random tests on a small percentage of the bolts using a torque wrench and sent the results to the manufacturer who have confirmed that these values are expectable. My question is, under CDM, am I required to provide these certificates or do I just have to satisfy myself/my company that we have met these valves? We have worked all over the world and for some very large companies (power, water, defence and local authorities etc) and like I have said before, never been asked for this information regarding these torque certificates, so I just needed to know what is expected of us so that I know for the future.
james85  
#5 Posted : 07 July 2010 14:26:06(UTC)
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james85

Surely a letter of conformance from your company and also from the manufacturer, along with your sample of tested bolts, would be enough for the main contractor here...
Ron Hunter  
#6 Posted : 07 July 2010 15:41:51(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

12, 500 bolts, eh? You'd be cheaper forking out for a certificate/declaration from your structural engineer contact. Maybe ask if your client would find that acceptable alternative - perhaps they're only looking for some assurance?
Alan Haynes  
#7 Posted : 07 July 2010 15:53:37(UTC)
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Alan Haynes

Surely this is more a contractual question than H&S Did the Client specify the need to supply Torque Certificates in the Tender document? If he did - you need to supply it If he didn't - tell him how much this contract variation will cost him, and await his response
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