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Jackson43343  
#1 Posted : 10 July 2010 17:01:36(UTC)
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Jackson43343

I have to write a toolbox talk on eye protection standards for our site. I have always believed that a chemical full face visor (Fitted to a helmet) was adequate. However a colleague insists that chemical goggles must be worn beneath the visor. Is there a definitive answer to this? I'm talking about maintenance activity on caustic, sulphuric, phosphoric pipelines and pumps.
frankc  
#2 Posted : 11 July 2010 10:58:03(UTC)
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frankc

To be honest, i always thought it was either or, depending on the R/A when i worked on chemical plants 10 years ago. If your colleague insists it's both, ask him where he got the info from.
firesafety101  
#3 Posted : 11 July 2010 15:04:01(UTC)
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firesafety101

IMO if it's eye protection then goggles - if full face protection then it's the visor. The data sheet and COSSH assessment should provide the answer. There is no definitive answer as you need to assess each hazard separately.
Guru  
#4 Posted : 11 July 2010 16:14:09(UTC)
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Guru

My experience face visors either provide protection from impacts (hard plastic compound), or provide protection from chemical spashes (Acetate). Provided you use the correct type of visor for the task then I see no real value in making the wearer have goggles on aswell. Make sure the equipment is fit for purpose, the guys are trained in their use etc then unless there is another factor in the task that im missing (hung over atm) then there is no need to go over the top. I would recommend that the chosen face visor has a chin guard.
stephendclarke  
#5 Posted : 11 July 2010 18:52:35(UTC)
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stephendclarke

Hi, As mentioned above the full face visor needs to be suitable for the chemicals used, I'd seek advice from the visor manufacturers, in the past I've always used goggles (made to suitable standard, no gaps where chemical splash could drip down) for general chemical work; visor for the more dangerous activities where you must avoid contact with skin and eyes e.g. hot chromic acid. Regards Steve
Jackson43343  
#6 Posted : 12 July 2010 17:18:02(UTC)
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Jackson43343

Thankyou for your comments. I think from your posts that if I was looking simply at eye protection, chemical goggles would be fine. If I was looking at face and eye protection a full face visor on its own fitted with a chin guard would be adequate. In which case I need to sort out some visors that accept a chin guard, which is not a problem! Alan
Clairel  
#7 Posted : 12 July 2010 18:06:11(UTC)
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Clairel

Jackson43343 wrote:
I have to write a toolbox talk on eye protection standards for our site. I have always believed that a chemical full face visor (Fitted to a helmet) was adequate. However a colleague insists that chemical goggles must be worn beneath the visor. Is there a definitive answer to this? I'm talking about maintenance activity on caustic, sulphuric, phosphoric pipelines and pumps.
Don't you just love those colleagues/workers who just 'know' that you are wrong and they are right!!! ;-) Visor AND goggles is not required. Just the right type in the first place. Be a bit like wearing foam ear inserts and muff hearing protection....pointless!
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