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Terry556		#1 Posted : 06 July 2010 12:26:27(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I have had an EHS audit by an outside agency and he told me to flat pack the tower when not in use so I said no the reason being 1) it is more of a risk erecting and dismantling the tower 2) the tower is chained to an rsj to stop unauthorised use 3) it is inspected every week by a competent person and the register signed 4) the only person qualified to use the tower is the electrician This comes down to common sense I think, unless i am wrong
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RayRapp		#2 Posted : 06 July 2010 13:19:53(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Terry I would agree with you unless for some reason the tower is defective. Does this auditor who suggested the idea have any qualifications associated erecting and dismantling mobile towers? I suspect not and therefore I don't think they are in a position to advise. We provide scafftags on our towers, checked and signed by a competent person. If it's not fit for purpose the scaff tag insert is removed which shows 'do not use' and/or quarantined off site.
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frankc		#3 Posted : 06 July 2010 13:37:57(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Terry556 wrote: I have had an EHS audit by an outside agency and he told me to flat pack the tower when not in use so I said no the reason being 1) it is more of a risk erecting and dismantling the tower 2) the tower is chained to an rsj to stop unauthorised use 3) it is inspected every week by a competent person and the register signed 4) the only person qualified to use the tower is the electrician This comes down to common sense I think, unless i am wrong How high is the Work Platform and when moved, does it need any adjustments? May i ask a couple of other questions? Who is No 3 and what qualification does he have to inspect towers? Is the tower stored outside or inside? Where is the chain attached to on the tower?
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Terry556		#4 Posted : 06 July 2010 13:49:20(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Frankc The tower is stored inside, the competant person is the electrician, as he has done the course for erecting and dimantling the tower.
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grim72		#5 Posted : 06 July 2010 13:51:40(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Would it not be a case of removing the risk of unauthorised access? If it is stored indoors then this would obviously be less of a concern
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grim72		#6 Posted : 06 July 2010 13:53:00(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I see that question was answered while I was typing. I love that forum feature :-)
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frankc		#7 Posted : 06 July 2010 13:58:26(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		terry556 wrote: Frankc The tower is stored inside, the competant person is the electrician, as he has done the course for erecting and dimantling the tower. How about the height and are there any obstacles in the way when he has to move it?
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tazz		#8 Posted : 09 July 2010 12:17:35(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		I do scaffold inspection and as long as the scaffold is inspected and tagged on a weekly basis and no access to people other than those who need to use it i would allow to stay.
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mattyturton		#9 Posted : 13 July 2010 21:10:45(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		I recently did some demolition work on a site in essex which involved the daily use of a scaffold tower, which i am trained/ticketed to use, and it was the company i was working for's policy that the tower was taken down and stored every night as even though it was being kept inside, they were fearful that somebody would break into the building overnight and then claim in the event of injury resulting from falling from the tower that had been left up!!! rediculous if you ask me!
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frankc		#10 Posted : 13 July 2010 21:59:32(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Employers have to, Matty because of things like this... http://www.theconstructi...on-site-after-night-out-
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mattyturton		#11 Posted : 14 July 2010 20:12:02(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		I totally understand why, just find it rediculous that somebody who is burgling/vandalising/damaging your premises is actually entitled to make a claim against you!
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firesafety101		#12 Posted : 14 July 2010 20:46:23(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		frankc wrote: Employers have to, Matty because of things like this... http://www.theconstructi...on-site-after-night-out- I bit of a difference here Frank, in that the site was not secure and there was an unprotected edge to fall over. If a PC secures a site with all equipment inside I would think that is reasonably practicable as a hazard reduction exercise. Surely if someone then forces entry it is they who are at fault, even if they climb a tower scaffold?
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frankc		#13 Posted : 14 July 2010 21:09:11(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I agree different scenarios, Chris. However, in this day and age of 'compo culture', i'm sure you'd get some young lawyer digging out The Trespassers Act and having a bash at the company. One thing i can't get my head around is how does chaining the tower to an RSJ stop unauthorised use? Might stop the tower being moved but wouldn't stop anyone from climbing it and falling from it.
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stephendclarke		#14 Posted : 14 July 2010 21:15:55(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		Hi, I would say that if the site is secure, heras fenced, double clips, all spannered-up it should be adequate -couldn't the lower steps of ladders/tower access ladders be boarded over to prevent access as an additional measure. Regards Steve
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frankc		#15 Posted : 14 July 2010 21:39:40(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		My first question was "How high is the tower" and i still don't know the answer. A couple of lifts wouldn't take more than 5 - 10 minutes to dismantle. And Steve, some people STILL climb up the non ladder side, even in this day and age.
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