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Hi,
I'm looking at installing an additional set of E-Showers in my facility but before proceeding I want to confirm if there are any requirements for the placement, plumbing, etc of this equipment. I'm looking to position them in 2 areas of the main factory that are accessible to most employees within 2-3 minute walk.
They will be purchased from reputable manufacturer and signage displayed. But what I would like to know is is there a guidance document that states installation requirements and travel distances or is it simply dependant on our RA?
Thanks
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What is the nature of the business, and or substance/ chemical/ activity or process that would give rise to the need for emergency showers?
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Have you asked the question to the supplier of the showers?
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Food manufacturing, so there is Cleaning chemicals such as Nitric acid, caustic, etc. No I have not asked the suppliers but will do. Just wanted to check if the HSE or BS had any requirements already in place.
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I am not aware of a British Standard or HSE guidance.
Most suppliers quote the US "ANSI Z358.1-2004-Emergency Eye Wash and Shower Equipment."
Refer to oneof the suppliers checklist based on ANSI Z358.1-2004:-
http://www.gesafety.com/downloads/ANSIGuide.pdf
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Consider the location carefully since each shower will need to be run for at least a couple of minutes once a week and the wrong placement can result in routinely wet and slippery floors and if you are really unlucky, wet and soggy products, raw materials and the like - not something you want from a shower test/flush.
Don't forget that routine Legionella testing may also be required.
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Hughes produce - separate from their catalogue - the 'Definitive Guide to Emergency Safety Showers & Eyebaths'.
To use their words, it is "a handy 20 page booklet that is essential reading for anyone who is specifying or buying Emergency Safety Showers, Eyebaths and Facewash Fountains. The ‘Definitive Guide’ explains in simple language the relevant legislation and international standards. It also offers practical advice for choosing, installing, operating and maintaining the different items of equipment."
Information here: http://www.hughes-safety.../default.aspx?appid=2366
I found it very useful....
Regards,
Ross
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Its a long time since I needed to specify emergency showers - and I haven't tried to download the Hughes guide...
But from first principles - if your staff are handling (concentrated) acids and similar (in bulk / large quanities) the 'two to three minutes' you identify is too far to be of any practical use. Emergency (drench) showers must be installed virtually adjacent to the operation / installation which creates the risk. The vehicle unloading point, the bulk store, the mixing bay, etc.. As I say it's a long time since I specified but I seem to recall a (company?) standard that suggested no more than ten feet travel.. But we were routinely dealing with concentrated caustic soda, nitric sulphuric and Hydrolcholric acids, glacial acetic, plus and ammonia liquid chlorine, ... plus several other corrosive gases and aggressive solvents...
If you are dealing with what I would class as 'food strength' acids, then ordinary showers may suffice?
Our maintenance guys had monthly functional tests (have they really gone up to weekly?) on over one hundred and thirty emergency showers and eye wash stations...... It would have been more but we had molten metal in many areas and it was deemed not safe to instal showers in those areas...
And make certain the water supply is properly identified and kept secure. One of the first serious injuries I had to deal with involved an acid splashed operator jumping on the emergency shower plate - and being drenched with neat caustic soda. Lost the sight in one eye, and permanently disfigured through thermal and caustic damage - the acid itself (10% nitric) would most likely only have caused temporary burns and blistering damage. [The steam line had been used as a 'temporary' trace de-icer for the caustic line through a cold spell, and there was mix-up when things were being cross connected in the spring....]
Steve
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There is a British Standard for emergency safety showers, but only for laboratories (BS EN 15154: 1). The American Standard quoted by some other contributors is very similar to it.
The American Standard is much better though for the specification for plumbed-in eye wash units; they specify a volume of almost three times as much water per minute as the British Standard (BS EN 15154:2).
The America Standard (ANSI Z 358.1 -2004) recommends a maximum travel distance of 10 seconds: the British Standards have no distance specified.
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