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Jamierobert  
#1 Posted : 28 July 2010 05:02:22(UTC)
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Jamierobert

Hi,
Just wondering which type of hi vis you have gone for and why? I am reviewing the company PPE requirements and just thought I would ask the question.

Cheers,
JR
Guru  
#2 Posted : 28 July 2010 07:30:51(UTC)
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Guru

Doesnt matter which colour the body of the clothing is, provided it complies with EN 471.

The key thing, is the clothing has a combination of retroreflective material and fluorescent materials.



grim72  
#3 Posted : 28 July 2010 08:10:39(UTC)
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grim72

Unless you are working on the railways, colour is specific then.
GeoffB4  
#4 Posted : 28 July 2010 08:30:31(UTC)
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GeoffB4

Yellow attracts insects, orange not as many.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#5 Posted : 28 July 2010 08:37:26(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Orange
When new to working on a building site a fellow safey officer when questioned why use orange he took an orange vest ant a yellow one , placed them side by side and walked me back a hundred yards ... I'll let you figure which one stood out more

Badger
Canopener  
#6 Posted : 28 July 2010 09:05:21(UTC)
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Canopener

Other than the advice already given, re railways etc, I think that the colour DOES (or at least could) matter. The colur of the PPE should be different from a predominant background colours. Therefore if you are using plant, vehicles etc that are for example redominantly orange then I suggest that the more approporiate colour for PPE would be yellow.

Although this isn't mentioned in the ACoP there is other HSE guidance to that effect
Safety Smurf  
#7 Posted : 28 July 2010 09:08:56(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Thank you Phil, I was about to make the same point. Orange hi-vis near orange plant equipment is counter productive.
RayRapp  
#8 Posted : 28 July 2010 12:21:51(UTC)
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RayRapp

However, I work in the rail/construction industry where orange hi-vis is mandatory even when working with plant.
PhilBeale  
#9 Posted : 28 July 2010 12:25:02(UTC)
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PhilBeale

RayRapp wrote:
However, I work in the rail/construction industry where orange hi-vis is mandatory even when working with plant.


I think other have made reference to that above as being a requirement when working on the railways, which i believe is due to the fact that a yellow hi-viz could be confused or mistaken for a green go signal?

Phil
grim72  
#10 Posted : 28 July 2010 12:52:59(UTC)
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grim72

If by railway, you also need to consider EN510 anti-entanglement. A standard orange vest is not suitable either, it must conform to GO/RT 3279.
Safety Smurf  
#11 Posted : 28 July 2010 13:08:41(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

You could go for two-tone yellow and orange ones (subject to statutory requirements)
RayRapp  
#12 Posted : 28 July 2010 13:17:57(UTC)
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RayRapp

...LU/DLR standard.
johnmurray  
#13 Posted : 28 July 2010 15:59:30(UTC)
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johnmurray

For difficult members of the workforce you can get shocking-pink Hi-Viz.
A few days in that ought to sort out the men from the bois (!)
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#14 Posted : 29 July 2010 08:32:32(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

PhilBeale wrote:
RayRapp wrote:
However, I work in the rail/construction industry where orange hi-vis is mandatory even when working with plant.


I think other have made reference to that above as being a requirement when working on the railways, which i believe is due to the fact that a yellow hi-viz could be confused or mistaken for a green go signal?

Phil

Phil,
On the railway yellow is CAUTION and NOT a safe condition which is green

Badger
PhilBeale  
#15 Posted : 29 July 2010 09:31:04(UTC)
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PhilBeale

Barrie(Badger)Etter wrote:
PhilBeale wrote:
RayRapp wrote:
However, I work in the rail/construction industry where orange hi-vis is mandatory even when working with plant.


I think other have made reference to that above as being a requirement when working on the railways, which i believe is due to the fact that a yellow hi-viz could be confused or mistaken for a green go signal?

Phil

Phil,
On the railway yellow is CAUTION and NOT a safe condition which is green

Badger


Thanks for that badger but i would have thought a yellow hi-viz was very close to green or at least seen at a distance so that's why they use orange as it isn't remotely like green Lol. I personally think most hi-viz are closer to green than yellow or certainly not much difference in it.

Phil
Mick Noonan  
#16 Posted : 29 July 2010 10:51:36(UTC)
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Mick Noonan

In my experience of construction sites here in the ROI the convention its that yellow is the colour of hi-vis and orange is worn by the rigger/slinger/banksman to differentiate them from the general population.

Badger, I would be interested to know if the wearing of orange hi-vis on the railways is a convention too or is it written specifically? You have explained why it is used already (signals) but I was wondering if you mean flag type signals?
Alan Haynes  
#17 Posted : 29 July 2010 16:02:41(UTC)
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Alan Haynes

Mick Noonan wrote:
............ I would be interested to know if the wearing of orange hi-vis on the railways is a convention too or is it written specifically? ...........


Its a requirement laid down in the mandatory Railway Group Standard GO/RT3279 "High Visibility
Clothing"

You can Google it for the full text
RayRapp  
#18 Posted : 29 July 2010 21:53:20(UTC)
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RayRapp

As an ex train driver I can confirm that orange hi-vis is mandatory in the rail industry. From a distance a small blob of yellow can look like a green signal and be mistaken for a signal showing the route ahead is clear. Indeed, netlon fencing must not be orange but blue or green because from a distance it can obscure anyone working on or about the track wearing orange hi-vis or leggings.
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