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firesafety101  
#1 Posted : 17 August 2010 10:37:24(UTC)
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firesafety101

This story hit my email from IOSH Connect yesterday, and interests me as the architect was prosecuted under Regs 13 and 14 of CDM. Does anyone have further info, does it suggest that the architect should design in the WAH safety as well as the design and ssow for the works? http://www.iosh.co.uk/ne...?i=N0091951280744384174A
Jane Blunt  
#2 Posted : 17 August 2010 10:46:04(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

The HSE press release gives a lot more information http://www.hse.gov.uk/pr...2010/coi-sw-739sww09.htm
Phillips20760  
#3 Posted : 17 August 2010 10:56:27(UTC)
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Phillips20760

There's a good article in the "other institute's" health and safety at work magazine, along with a cracking photograph. I don't know many details but looking by the photo its surprising no-one picked this up, and unsurprising the building designers have been found liable. There's an access ladder less than a metre next to an exposed edge with a lip of about 12 inches. It seems completely forseeable that someone could step down the ladder, and step / trip backwards, which would result in a 9 metre fall (my asumption on viewing the photograph only). Alledgedly, the risk was created by the architects changing the design of the build (originally there wasn't going to be an air-con unit positioned there so there wouldn't have been an access ladder). Sounds familiar doesn't it? How often do plans get changed without the safety implications of these changes being assessed and realised? Interestingly the article also states that the architects were rushing to complete the project and this was the reason given for not re-assessing the risks fully after changing the design. Again, a common story in workplaces, and a lesson to be learnt by all. Regards, Ian
firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 17 August 2010 10:57:53(UTC)
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firesafety101

Jane, thanks, you are so quick off the mark. Many thanks. Chris ps this just shows the good of this forum as there is always someone with the answer. :-)
Phillips20760  
#5 Posted : 17 August 2010 10:58:38(UTC)
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Phillips20760

I need to type faster! The "other" magazine's article is pretty much the same content as the link posted by Jane, and the photograph used is the same. Ian
Jane Blunt  
#6 Posted : 17 August 2010 11:04:11(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

I didn't know anything about it, but it interested me a lot as we had a new building recently! I Googled 'epcc bristol crown court' and this did the trick!
boblewis  
#7 Posted : 17 August 2010 11:05:21(UTC)
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boblewis

As an aside - if there was to be no aircon on the roof the roof structure would have been re- assessed for the new load so it is strange that the process was incomplete - Lack of competent advice?? Yet again we see also parapets designed only for decoration when they could so easily and cheaply be made functional in the original design. Bob
Phillips20760  
#8 Posted : 17 August 2010 11:10:15(UTC)
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Phillips20760

Ha! Have you seen the photo? Scary. I'll show this to the next person who claims that "all this 'elf 'n' safety's gone to far / over the top". Sympathy to the family of the technician.
firesafety101  
#9 Posted : 17 August 2010 11:13:47(UTC)
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firesafety101

Reading through the article on the HSE site I note a mention of the term "planning supervisor" more than once as it is regarding the 1994 Regs.? I assume the same level of prosecution would be used for a similar offence under the current Regs. ?
Steve e ashton  
#10 Posted : 17 August 2010 11:20:13(UTC)
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Steve e ashton

Chris: Under the 94 regs, the designer only had to have regard to those who were doing construction or cleaning work. Under the 2007 Regs, they also have to look out for the safety of building users. So there is potential for a wider scope of offences...? And I agree with Bob about the parapet - the designer very clearly never stood on a flat roof in a howling gale before he put pen to paper (or mouse to CAD package?)! Steve
Roly  
#11 Posted : 17 August 2010 12:33:07(UTC)
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Roly

This prosecution was under CDM 1994 as the offence took place before the 2007 regs. Google the 1994 regs and you will find a copy of the regs. Had me confused for a start until I realised the date
firesafety101  
#12 Posted : 17 August 2010 19:16:41(UTC)
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firesafety101

I'd like to learn more about this case, i.e. how the accident actually occurred. How can I find out more?
shpeditor  
#13 Posted : 18 August 2010 12:20:26(UTC)
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shpeditor

Hi all, Just to let you know that your own Institution's magazine - SHP - also has the story, of course, and with a lot more detail than the HSE release, with quotes given directly to us by the inspector involved - visit: http://www.shponline.co....h-at-error-in-fatal-fall
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