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Hello,
Would like some advice. Who normally would meet / sign permits to work for Contractors, would this be the Safety Officer normally or the person who has organised the work to be carried out i.e. Engineer?
Thanks for your help
Katie
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Hi Katie,
It really should be someone who is suitably qualified or experienced enough with the plant & works to be undertaken, so that they are able to comment on the control measures proposed by the contractor.
The person should not be directly involved in the work as there one strays into the area of self-permitting, which really defies the point in the first place.
Permits are issued to allow work to commence. They should not be taken for granted - can your engineer who requested the work demonstrate that he is being suitably objective? Will he be directly supervising the work?
May I ask what work is being proposed?
A
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Hi Katie,
I agree with Alex. I have been heavily involved with permit systems & all types of permits to work. If the permit issuer is trained & qualified & understands the tasks involved then its ok. Don't forget the permit receiver should understand the tasks & permit system also.
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Thanks for your replies.
This has helped.
With our permit system we have a general work permit which anyone who comes on site must complete if they are carrying out work on our site. Depending on the task they may need additional permits:-
working at height
confined space
hot work
hot liquid, steam and chemical
critical isolation device
lock out / tag out
So depending on the task by the time they complete all the permits it could be 20/25 mins before starting task. Is this standard practice?
Alex, in reply to your message, the work s normally repairs or fixing a process in our production or pilot plant area.
Thanks again for your help
Katie
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Hi!
Normally there r 3 ppl involved in PTWS: Job Performer, Area Owner (in which Job Performer carries out job) and a reviewer (normally SHE dept). All 3 sign before the job commences. Subsequent stages of signature/sign off can be defined as per the organizational requirements.
Thks
Sanjeev
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I agree with the previous posts. The permit system employed is likely to be aligned to that particular organisation. In other words, it is what works and is the most practical to implement.
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Our Permits require three persons to co-operate to produce the Permit to work (Requires three signatures although often two can be the same person).
Work originator, area owner and work owner. Between these three people they must have the skills and knowledge required to identify the controls to carry out the work safely. The main deliverable is for these three people to communicate with each other so all are aware of what is "supposed" to be happening and how it will happen.
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We will have a contractor carrying out some construction/refurbishment work on a residential property (owned by us), adjoining our land but the work will not impact on our day to day business. Don't yet know if sub-contractors will be used. In this case should the principal contractor operate the permit to work system? Sorry if it seems a simple query but as work is isolated from our main operations and we will be selecting the contractor I'm just not sure who should be in control of issuing permits.
Thanks
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