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Jackson900572  
#1 Posted : 03 September 2010 21:09:18(UTC)
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Jackson900572

One of our employees is 6' 8" tall and has informed the company that he has experienced ergonomic issues with the cars he has had in the past. It is time for him to renew his company car. Looking through the list of cars (which contains 3000+ cars, of various makes and models) he has selected a number of cars that all fall outside of this allotted budget for his wage. He has offered to the company that he his happy to accept the extra cost for the car, but obviously the company will take a hit with the costs. As a rep he can cover a considerable mileage in a week / month / year, therefore, like ergonomic issues with DSE, we as the employer have to assist / support our employee with this issue. Has anyone any previous experience of this, along with any solutions? Many thank Robin
Canopener  
#2 Posted : 03 September 2010 21:35:35(UTC)
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Canopener

I don't have a great deal of experience in this, but have been out in a Ford Ranger today; great pulling power (no not that sort of pulling! - if only!) but the seating position/leg room for me at six two was 'grim'. If I were to have to spend any significant amount of time in this then I would certainly have a major problem. So. I have a great deal of sympathy with your chap. You suggest that the cars are provided on the basis of the salary of the individual. Such an arbitrary approach is, I am sure commonplace, but I suggest that in the circumstances, any half reasonable employer would make a more logical and reasoned judgement and relax such a policy to ensure that this chap is provided with a suitable car for his height. I think, that is fair, reasonable. Sensible and justifiable.
Jackson900572  
#3 Posted : 03 September 2010 22:09:44(UTC)
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Jackson900572

Fair point, the employee has been very reasonable and structured with this comments and approach, and I intend to support this case with a risk assessment identifying his issues to the management. I appreciate your comments, thank you
m  
#4 Posted : 04 September 2010 08:21:41(UTC)
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m

I think Phil is correct in what he says but be careful how you phrase your risk assessment. If your tall employer gets a better car than his position would normally merit then you may find others getting jealous and wanting better cars for less than genuine reasons.
KieranD  
#5 Posted : 04 September 2010 08:30:15(UTC)
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Important to specify unambiguously what you mean by 'ergonomics issues' - there are so many that a viable solution is only possible once validly measured data are used. You may find it useful to look at the website on driving ergonomics associated with Diana Gyr at Loughborough University Some members of the Driving SIG within the Instittute of Ergonomics & Human Factors (www.iehf.org.uk), formertly The Ergonomics Society, may also be worth speaking to
bob youel  
#6 Posted : 04 September 2010 10:29:33(UTC)
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bob youel

the tool [car] should be ergonomicially right for its user this old fashioned view that a person gets a type of car depending on their wage structure is at the best shocking in tghis day and age! They should get a tool that suits their needs The only car that 'fitted' some of my old employees who were all over 6'8 [yep ther were all over 6'8!] was the old Scimitar [great car but not now built] and even some of the old Rovers that were large did not 'fit; properly The problem we have todat is that the manufacturers only make cars for the average so the small and the tall struggle I advise that your company gets modern especially so as he appears to be a good employee and 'no' he should not pay any £ out of his own pocket! all the above said you need to confirm that this is a genuine case as some of my tall people have no problems with their desks where many shorter people say that the desks are to small!
stephendclarke  
#7 Posted : 05 September 2010 14:18:38(UTC)
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stephendclarke

Hi, At 6’5’’ and with a back problem I drive a landrover discovery, its the only vehicle I can drive comfortably all day. Luckily I’ve always been able to use my own vehicle for work with reasonable mileage/fuel expenses, is that approach not possible? Also the following website might prove helpful. http://www.drivingergonomics.com/ Regards Steve
David Bannister  
#8 Posted : 06 September 2010 19:08:26(UTC)
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David Bannister

Many employers are now encouraging their drivers to self-fund cars and provide cash-in-lieu plus mileage expenses. This avoids the swingeing levels of personal tax for use of the company vehicle (plus massive additional tax for private fuel). Given the state of the car market there are some great deals to be had for 2 or 3 year private user leases. This then would avoid any "I want one too" complaints whilst allowing your tall employee to provide his own vehicle to suit his stature. Also renders the fleet managers role somewhat ambiguous.
freelance safety  
#9 Posted : 06 September 2010 19:16:39(UTC)
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freelance safety

Yes, the allowance can be a good solution providing the company don’t make lots of stipulations. One of my previous employers reduced the allowance then told us all that we could only have cars from their list and their fleet supplier….? A lot of people were going to be out of pocket in subsidising a car they didn’t want….? What is wrong with some employers these days, they seem to want it every way possible, glad I work for myself these days. On another note my best mate is 6’6” and drives a smart car, finds it very comfortable.
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