Hi Thundercliffe

I cannot comment upon individual circumstances or whether payment was made and it would be unethical of me to do so even if I knew - the link was made to point members to the fact that IOSH do and can take action as far as they can when they are made aware. I would also suggest that if these individuals continued to use the IOSH post nominals and were found to be doing so stronger action would undoubtedly be taken by IOSH.

I also cannot answer the question "Are they still working in the H&S industry", but one future consequence will be that removal from IOSH membership will also remove them from the proposed HSE consultants list.

I personally think that due diligence checks by prospective clients and employers will help prevent abuse. But how many actually undertake the due diligence check? This would also help solve fraudulence within CV's or reduce the amount of fraudulent information contained within CV's as well methinks!!!!

Also as stated earlier IOSH do take action and this problem is not solely confined to IOSH - how many Doctors have been exposed practising illegally? Quite a few I would suggest.

Regards

Tim B

i agree it generates confidence in the iosh community....

Max,

Many posts back you asked how an employer could check a person's IOSH status and were given sound advice. An alternative method during a meeting/interview etc would be to ask to see the person's IOSH membership card, which says " I am a member of the world's largest health & safety organisation, has the IOSH logo, name, membership number, validity date showing active/paid up and finally status within IOSH".

ALL,

As I understand the HSE Consultancy Register is going to be voluntary, not all practitioners will want to register, so whilst I agree this may be the beginning of addressing the "competence" question in our profession there are many avenues that people who are "expelled" from IOSH may take to continuing working in the profession, therefore I believe we are going to need more than the register to address the issues we have at the moment with the perception of the profession. The register may address some of the problem but not all of it and it will take time to show results.

I still see the register as a step forward and hope it can be given teeth,
however I would like to see it expanded to encompass all people who practice H&S at whatever level whether Consultant or as a company employee.

A pipe dream maybe but!!!!!!!!
Take Care All

I note on the HSE website that a Gas Fitter was fined £8k + £2k costs for claiming to be "CORGI" registered when he was not. HSE prosecuted so maybe the new register will have teeth, lets hope so.

Take Care

HSE was quick of the mark there ....september 2006 september 2010......bodes well for them overseeing a consultant register (negative i know...how can people put their confidence in a system to be implemented) when the "governing bodies" take 4 years to investigate and punish.....

The Justice system (courts, defendants rights, etc) is not within HSE's control/jurisdiction. Therefore it is not primarily due to HSE that it takes 3-5 years from the accident/dangerous occurence/breach of law to sentancing.

Alternatively, one could consider the USA OSHA "citations" that permits OSHA to "fine" organisations by issuing citations and fines--but these are not criminal ones!


http://www.osha.gov/pls/...ue=&p_status=CURRENT