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The Red cross have said that they want to give 11 year old children first aid training so they can look after their friends who collapse from drinking....... shouldnt 11 year olds be concentrating on school work.. playing with toys ...and sports.....has the world really gone mad ....or
Is it official i am a grumpy moaning old man
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I heard this on the radio this morning, but in Monday-morning befuddled mind didn't realise they were talking about 11year olds......On the one hand you can see where they are coming from, but what research have they based this 'need' upon? Are there really that many 11year olds that incapacitated with drink that they require their (probably equally intoxicated, one would assume) friends to administer 1st aid?
I think I may join you in the grumpy old man corner
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Must say, Thunder, that when I first saw that this morning I thought 'what a great idea'.
Not only enables them to help a friend in need but also warns them of the dangers. Nothing like that when I was a kid. Though we all seemed to stumble through it, it was more luck than design and there's a fair few who aren't so lucky.
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They are indicating the use of social networking sites like twitter to communicate dangers, problems etc to the kids. I did not hear anything with regards to administering first aid or anything like that, I may have missed that bit. May be more to do with highlighting dangers of alcohol, effects on body at that age etc.
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My original thought would be along your lines, Thundercliffe. But if it is really true, I suppose at second glance, it could be a good idea - just because 11 year olds shouldn't be drinking, doesn't mean they don't, and to think otherwise is probably wrong. You never know, training in the possible effects may actually discourage some from drinking and make them more responsible, and that's not such a bad thing!
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I like the idea of training 11 year olds in first aid (younger the better) is a good one but sad that the primary reason is for when their mates are intoxicated. i guess a reflection on society that we allow 11 year olds out to get drunk. If they haven't got the sense not to get drunk in the first place i think there would be little chance in them, to be willing to be trained in first aid. Dare i say that the parents have some responsibility in this if they allow their kids to go out drinking on such a regular basis society has to ensure there is a first aider with them.
Phil
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I recently did the First Aid at Work course. It then became apparent, unknown to me that my daughter was taught basic first aid in first year at high school, aged 12 yrs. (2 years previously). CPR, placing a person in the recovery position, raising a limb to slow blood flow, clearing airways etc. All great skills! I understand this is included within the school curriculum in Scottish Schools?
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I think it's niave to think that some 11 yr olds don't get drunk (although I think 14 is probably a more accurate age for it starting to become a problem amongst the masses).
That doesn't mean their parents know about it or that it happens on a regular basis. Kids can be secretive and a one off experiment can go disastriously wrong.
And don't get caught into thinkintg that it's only those kids from less desirable families either. Kids who could, should and do know better and have been raised well can still go off the rails or experiment with alcohol.
Nothing wrong with teaching kids how to cope with a drunk mate. It could be argued that they could also be taught how to deal with a friend who has taken drugs, whoihcn is more common than most parents like to believe.
This is the real world and so we have to adapt accordingly.
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No bad thing. (The 'grumpy' in me says that this is yet another burden on the traditional curriculum though).
Providing there is an equal emphasis on social and moral education about drugs, smoking and alcohol.
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One thing bothers me about the last post - the idea that schools teach "morals".
I do not think that they should. Whose morals to teach? Steer clear, stick to facts, life skills.
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Sorry Thundercliffe but you most definitely are!
The campaign is about children between 11-16 and not just 11 year olds. It includes awareness campaigns and is fully supported by Drinkaware. In part it is a response to the children themselves confirming that they have experienced being left with pals who are drunk and then worrying about them choking or not waking up.
see the formal Red Cross newslink here.
http://www.redcross.org....aunched-for-young-people
So lets look beyond the headline and make sure we understand the full context. Some of the figures quoted make you reach for the nearest bottle. (LOL)
The campaign is actually aimed at life saving skills, one small part of which deals with alcohol related emergencies. But then alcohol and 11 year olds make a better headline eh?
All that makes it no-brainer for me. Prevention is not realistically possible but mitigation is most certainly possible and this campaign fits into that category.
As has been said by another poster, providing relevant life skills for our 21st century kids is a vital part of their survival. This sort of campaign is a welcome resource in meeting that challenge.
p48
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Pikeman; social, moral and religious education is an integral part of the curriculum.
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