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cars10  
#1 Posted : 15 September 2010 09:06:40(UTC)
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cars10

Hello all, I am looking for recommendations for software for a training database. We have 50 employees currently and a myriad of qualifications (PPE, Equipment, Trade etc). We are using Excel which we set up ourselves and to be honest it is cumbersome and out of date and too labour intensive. We should have used MS Access, but our staff only know the basics. So the question is: can anyone recommend a bespoke database (software) which can manage all our training records, provide timely prompts for re-training and is user friendly and easily maintained. We don't want to have to design a database in Access if we can help it. Oh and it needs to be appropriate for the numbers and cost effective! I don't want much :-) but I am sure there is something out there. Any assistamnce greatly appreciated.
wizzpete  
#2 Posted : 15 September 2010 09:15:36(UTC)
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wizzpete

Have you considered training a couple of staff on MS Access? If you have this software as part of the MS Office package, then this way you can get the bespoke database you need and ongoing support costs are minimised, meaning a one-off cost to train individuals may be cheaper. Just a thought.
Ken Slack  
#3 Posted : 15 September 2010 10:33:54(UTC)
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Ken Slack

One of the best tools is a spreadsheet, with a folder to back up with evidence, such as certificates, toolbox talk sheets etc. Cheap as chips but very effective.
RP  
#4 Posted : 15 September 2010 19:34:17(UTC)
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RP

I would agree to using MS Access for this purpose, i have used it for years with over 12,000 entries, you just need to set it up to enable queries, etc. It's the main downfall of developing any data-base, what do you want it to do? How are you going to retrieve the data? Start with those first...
frazzled  
#5 Posted : 16 September 2010 01:54:58(UTC)
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frazzled

I use Excel for a training database for over 400. If you use date driven formulas, pivot tables and conditional formatting it can change dates to different colours to show training is required/overdue/completed plus you can scan and link to documents such as certificates. You can even use it as part of a mail merge document to send out reminder memos. Links can also be put in to presentations so your departmental trainers all use the correct presentation. The entire file can then be made read only, and sit on each managers (computer) desktop so they can check their teams training easily encouraging ownership - after all they are all accountable! The possibilities are endless.................
Fletcher  
#6 Posted : 16 September 2010 09:24:36(UTC)
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Fletcher

Good Morning, Previously I have been responsible for documentation control under my managerial remit and have used both Access and Excel. Access was for a company working trackside for Network Rail, 100 employees, the system was audited annually by Achilles as part of the Link-up process. The persons who maintained the system were the receptionists, they were sent on an in-house course with our IT expert and were exceedingly good at keeping everything as it should be. The system was designed to flag up 90, 60 and 30 day warnings of training requirements for individuals and we never had any problems. Excel was used at my last company where the training department maintained the system for 400+ employees. It was a simple system which recorded the competence of each individual with dates. Our IT department were working on a flag up system. I kept back up hard copies of all certificates and competences. In my opinion either is workable and it really depends on what resources you have available to make the system do what you want it to do and which system your maintainer (you possibly) are most comfortable with. Take Care.
Fletcher  
#7 Posted : 16 September 2010 09:29:59(UTC)
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Fletcher

Forgot, Both companies kept hard back up copies of certificates etc, as it the easiest way of meeting audit requirements at that time. Electronic copies may now be more acceptable but that could be another issue. Take Care
cars10  
#8 Posted : 16 September 2010 11:12:14(UTC)
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cars10

Hello All, thanks for all your responses. A couple of facts about our training situation: Records out of date, Spreadsheet has been split up, staff don't understand Excel enough for pivot tables although I have introduced conditional formatting, system is cumbersome now. We have considered Access as an alternative but we would need someone who understood MS Access to a high level and all aspects of relational databases. We require the training officer to simply input records and retrieve data and reports and not have any design and re-design responsibilities. There is an IT department (based elsewhere) who are severely stretched, they can install software (alongside keeping various systems going) but thats all they have time to do. I was looking for an off the shelf training database that is already designed, tried and proven. It would have to do the current tasks but more efficiently and prompt the training officer when training was due (preferably not on the day). I am sure there is software, which can be purchased, which is the best option rather than having to design things that may or may not work and have to qualify people to a higher standard than necessary. Again thanks
firestar967  
#9 Posted : 19 September 2010 13:35:45(UTC)
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Cars10 saw your post and as a quiet Sunday at work put together a simple database that will give you a months notice for training due (passed an hour). Nothing special but may be of use to you. Access 2003 format, no charge, no copyright, PM me your email and I will forward it to you if you’re interested.
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