Rank: Guest 
|
Due to lack of facilities on site we have been using an external facility to carry out our training. The training is ‘hazardous’ but required and injuries do occur; all minor not incurring time off. At present the accident reports are filled out back on site, which means they are not always reported. First aid facilities are supplied by the owner of the facility but we don’t use their paperwork or report any accidents to them. Certain members of our team are qualified to use this facility and the operation of the facility is by our people.
Should an accident book be made available when off site and should a copy be made available to the facility owners?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Super forum user
|
You don't say what the management arrangements are on site. If they are managed by the site owner then the site owner has to provide a means of recording the accident by providing the facility such as an accident book. If you are responsible for the site then you must do so. Step one who is in control of the site? Who is responsible for recording accidents? and how do you ensure that all staff understand the correct way to report accidents? Get these things clearly set out and your problem should be resolved.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
The main site has everything in place and is not a problem, it is when using the off site facility. This is an ‘Ad Hoc’ arrangement for a specialised training facility. I’m just trying to get some clarity on the reporting arrangements; is the leaving of the reporting till back on our normal workplace satisfactory? Do we have a duty to report any accidents while using this facility to their management (barring a major accident that is)?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Super forum user 
|
Hi Firestar,
Are other groups of your ilk using this facility? If so, what are they doing? I'm assuming they're just as prone to bumps and scratches as your team?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
All our teams use this facility on a rotational basis following the same reporting procedure; in fact it was another team that suffered the injuries that got me wondering about the accident reporting.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Super forum user
|
I was thinking of teams from other 'sites'.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Sorry
They work for another organisation and all their reporting procedures are in place. We mirror their training requirements but are not part of their system. We allow them to carry out certain training on our site in return they allow us the use of their facility. They play no direct role in our use of the facility and likewise for them, although sometimes we do training together.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Super forum user
|
Do they report they're bumps and scratches to you?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Forum user
|
If the site has been provided and maintained by another body and only used by you for specialist training and it is the nature of the training that is the cause of the minor accidents, then it is incumbent on you to introduce your accident reporting procedures for that site. If I was the operator of the site I would want to know about accidents on any of my sites. As for waiting to report the accidents when you get back to your normal workplace, it is perfectly satisfactory as long as the details are recorded and reportedly correctly.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Forum user
|
My take on this is that the reporting of accidents should be done depending on the nature of these. i.e. If the accident was caused as a direct consequence of the premises or equipment they might supply, then it should be reported and documented by them, on the other hand, if they derive from the actual training or the equipment you own and use for it, then it should be reported by you.
I don’t see a problem with an accident book from your company being made available when off site and accidents reported on it, as long as they dong have implications with the training site premises, don’t need to be given to them, however, if they want it. Why not? As long as you take into account adequate personal information protection.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Well that answers the question doesn't it, no they don't, however if it was severe enough then yes they would. Suppose the same rule applies.
Thanks Safety Smurf sound logic.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Sorry was typing when the other replies came in. The injuries are not normally caused by the facility but the environment it is designed to simulate, so an occupational hazard. We do use our own equipment in this facility. If a more severe accident did occur then this would be reported.
Thank you all for your help
|
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.