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Clairel  
#1 Posted : 17 September 2010 11:07:05(UTC)
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Clairel

Where companies have set a financial limit for safety shoes (ie, we'll pay xxx amount and anything fancier you have to pay the excess - unless for individual reasons such as health issues etc), what sum have they deemed a reasonable amount? Please do not use this as the basis for a debate on whether it is the correct approach to take, that debate has been done to death. Just looking for what others consider a reasonable limit. Thanks
David Bannister  
#2 Posted : 17 September 2010 11:15:06(UTC)
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David Bannister

Clairel, I suggest that there will not be a definitive answer to your question as it must depend on what the shoes are expected to achieve (and consequently standard and cost). If I had to make this decision I would take the approach of deciding what level of protection is required, look at the major catalogues and set the limit at the level of the major brand that fulfils my criteria. Anual review of level to take account of price changes. For individuals who need a higher spec (cost) shoe this would have to be based on individual assessment and decision.
DP  
#3 Posted : 17 September 2010 11:19:03(UTC)
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DP

As above posted quite a few factors to consider - if a big organisation then the CP Team will get you a better deal - if small find a suitable pair that will do the job, dependent of risk, match that price and that you benchmark.
Clairel  
#4 Posted : 17 September 2010 11:19:29(UTC)
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Clairel

I'm not after a definitive, I was after 'around about' figures. Basic safety shoe is all. We don't do work ourselves but need need to visit sites being built and refurbished.
holmezy  
#5 Posted : 17 September 2010 11:28:42(UTC)
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holmezy

Claire I did an excercise looking at suitable footwear and noted the different prices. Much like other posters, I took a rough average, which in my case came out at about £35. Based on that, The Companty would supply footwear up to that value, and allow employees to contribute if they wanted "designer" stuff. Any "individual needs" were taken into account on a seperate basis depending on various factors. So, to cut a long, much repeated and in this case, non specific answer, short...... I think £35 is fair. Holmezy
Safety Smurf  
#6 Posted : 17 September 2010 11:42:07(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

We offer a choice to our staff. We can issue them shoes/boots that would cost them £17 to buy themselves or they can have £17 discount off of a higher spec pair if they buy them through us. All subject to any special requirements of the individual (eg; If we don't stock their size then it's still our responsibility to pay for shoes/boots that fit them even if they cost more than £17)
Mark1969  
#7 Posted : 17 September 2010 11:49:05(UTC)
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Mark1969

Clairel, to answer your question. We provide 7 different styles of safety footwear, from trainers, boots, shoes and brogues. If someone has an issue with the style on offer (most recently a guy who broke his foot a few years ago) we will pay the equivalent amount of what style he would have gone for. He buys the footwear, supplies the reciept and we fund up to what we would have paid for the item. This ranges from £19 for a basic safety shoe, £30 for a trainer and £35 for a safety boot. I have adopted this system in 2 organisations that I have worked for and its always worked. I hope this helps.
Rob35  
#8 Posted : 17 September 2010 12:01:39(UTC)
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Rob35

I have set up a range with a supplier, from £12 - £30, they have produced posters etc. The employee then selects from the range (They do not see the prices), if they want to source there own, then we agree to pay up to £30 once they have produced a receipt or they can pick out of the catalogue and pay the difference.
Thundercliffe26308  
#9 Posted : 17 September 2010 12:05:20(UTC)
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Thundercliffe26308

..same thing we allow £25 for safety shoes...they want anything different they pay the extra....or buy there own and we will refund £25 of the cost of the footwear.
Blue  
#10 Posted : 17 September 2010 12:17:04(UTC)
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Blue

We are also around the £25 mark but occassionally stray over depending upon the situation, ie a couple of guys with size 14 feet, some wanting extra wide fit, anti-static situations. We do bend to accomodate the situation but 90% are covered with the cheaper solution. I don't like people going off and buying their own, you never know what spec they've bought or which car boot they've fallen from.
Thundercliffe26308  
#11 Posted : 17 September 2010 12:20:30(UTC)
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Thundercliffe26308

..should have added with a receipt from a reputable suppliers (eg arco)
PhilBeale  
#12 Posted : 17 September 2010 12:24:08(UTC)
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PhilBeale

differemt companies are going to have different buying powers from those buying a few pairs to those purchasing 100 or even thousands. have a look at screwfix or arco or rs and see what the basic cost is for a safety shoe. I think saying £20 is OK if you are buying quantity but if you are asking individuals to go out and buy a pair then you must have a realistic cost in mind so they can actually buy something. asls so the cheaper the safety shoe the less comfortable they might be so the less likely they would be to wear them. Phil
Dave C  
#13 Posted : 17 September 2010 21:00:37(UTC)
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Dave C

Claire £35 max works for us and provides a wide range of safety boots/shoes from our supplier. Have never needed to exceed this. Dave
firestar967  
#14 Posted : 17 September 2010 22:12:15(UTC)
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If you work for a large company with multiple contracts then on the more profitable contracts then you will get the best. However, on the contracts that you have underbid on and won you'll be lucky to get a pair of second hand ones...
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#15 Posted : 20 September 2010 08:52:54(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Claire Similar basis as you, i.e., up to a limit then pay extra. Our limit is £45, that gives a wider choice, sometimes too wide a choice as they take longer to decide. Its also surprising the number that come in around the £30 - 35 mark. So suggest you set an initial high water mark for two years then tighten the purse strings. Badger
MEden380  
#16 Posted : 20 September 2010 10:45:31(UTC)
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MEden380

Claire We supply a range from a particular if the operatives don't like we will put £29 towards foot wear of their choice. We obtain the foot wear for the operative and take the difference out of their salary over a period of time - £X per month (interest free). This way we can ensure the foot wear requested meets the required standard and that it comes from a reputable source.
wizzpete  
#17 Posted : 20 September 2010 10:59:36(UTC)
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wizzpete

My previous company did something similar. We supplied Safety footwear, but if employees wanted to choose something different, we let them choose from the suppliers' catalogue and ordered on their behalf (making a contribution equal to the cost of the supplied footwear). The Employee paid the difference. This way we could ensure it was of the required standard and quality.
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