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stuie  
#1 Posted : 29 September 2010 19:51:24(UTC)
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stuie

Hi all; has anyone any pearls of wisdom that they are willing to share on how they have balanced the need to wear a seatbelt (ours are only lap belts) on fork lift trucks (where there may be a risk of overturn/collision etc) vs the potential risks of wearing lap belts - especially when we have an expectant mother (who incidentally loves driving the truck). I am aware that the belt is not designed to prevent impact/injury- but that it is there to stop the driver trying to escape and getting caught in the 'mousetrap' effect, with the potentially fatal effects that may result. My initial thoughts are that although sad it would/may be better to lose/harm the unborn baby as opposed to potentially losing both mother and baby in an overturn situation. Have I just answered my own question? Thanks for any advice that you are willing to share with me. Stuie
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 30 September 2010 00:10:27(UTC)
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RayRapp

Stuie Not sure where to start with this one. Surely, it would be prudent to remove the expectant mother from FLT driving to ensure the safety of her unborn? In any case, once you have been notified in writing of the expected pregnancy there is an onus to complete an RA to identify any potential risks to mother and unborn. I have found it is best to discuss this with the person first before starting the RA process.
stuie  
#3 Posted : 30 September 2010 06:53:30(UTC)
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stuie

Hi Ray; having discussed this with the EM concerned yesterday during the RA process - she asked if she should or should not wear the seatbelt; perhaps my original post was unclear on this. She does not want to stop driving (large and integral part of her role) but recognises at some stage this may be physically not possible. Whilst we can (with a bit of effort) find her other duties she does not want to do this at this stage. She drives into work each day. Stuie
Safety Smurf  
#4 Posted : 30 September 2010 09:10:42(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Hi Stuie, I had to deal with a similar situation about 10 years ago. Once we'd actually assessed it properly we found that mounting and dismounting the truck caused sufficient risk of harm that she was placed on other duties until after the birth, but that was 9 tons of VNA. What type of truck is it and in what conditions is it being operated?
David Bannister  
#5 Posted : 30 September 2010 09:47:05(UTC)
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David Bannister

Surely the likelihood of an overturn or collision remains the same as previous to the pregnancy. If the driver starts to have difficulty in operating the controls or mount/dismount due to her growing size then that is the time to find alternative tasks. I think that the issue of seat belt or not is a red herring. If there is a situation where the seat belt is called on to do its job the threat to the driver is severe, regardless of any pregnancy. The baby is well protected against most scenarios, particularly at the speeds of a well driven FLT. Thus I think that the lap belt should still remain in use, but I would be interested to hear other viewpoints, never having been pregnant myself.
Safety Smurf  
#6 Posted : 30 September 2010 10:14:52(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

I've known of occasions of blanket policies on the use of belts where the risk of turnover hasn't even been assessed and has subsequently been found to be minimal.
RayRapp  
#7 Posted : 30 September 2010 10:21:04(UTC)
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RayRapp

It appears to be a judgement call. However, what should be borne in mind is that regardless of whether the expectant mother wishes to carry on with FLT operating, the employer has a duty to ensure they have not exposed the mother and unborn child to any unecessary risks as per Reg16 MHSWR. The fact that she chooses to drive into work is not relevant because the activity is outside the workplace.
Clairel  
#8 Posted : 30 September 2010 10:46:31(UTC)
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Clairel

If your risk assesmsent says that drivers of FLT's need to wear seatbelts then just becuase she is pregnant she can't evade the requirement. Same when driving a car if you are pregnant you still legally have to wear a seat beat. I have no opinon on whether she should still be driving the FLT (too many variables unique to the individual for anyone on here to say so IMO) but if she drives one she has to wear the seatbelt (if everyone else does too).
pl53  
#9 Posted : 01 October 2010 09:32:19(UTC)
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pl53

Agree with ClaireL on this one. The pregnancy is irrelevant. If the RA has found that seat belt is necessary then that's it really. The real issue is whether the lady in question should be on an FLT as her pregnancy progresses. In assessing that I would be looking at the difficulties of mounting and dismounting, WBV if there is an internal combustion engine, sitting for long periods without an exercise break, driving over rough surfaces etc.
stuie  
#10 Posted : 01 October 2010 10:28:50(UTC)
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stuie

Thanks for your advice; there is a minimal risk of overturn, but there nonetheless. Have spoken at great lengths with EM and have agreed that she can drive (with seatbelt in areas where risk of overturn - not all areas present such a risk; same as all other drivers) until her physical capabilites/size etc prevent her from doing so, will review with EM & site manegement on a regualr basis to ensure all is ok. Have gone throught the issues with getting on and off the truck - swollen ankles etc etc. She does not spend long periods - just regular short periods on the truck - have gone through the posture/positional issues - not sitting or standing for long period to minimise the risk of DVT etc which are the same for any EM. Thanks again. Stuie
son of skywalker  
#11 Posted : 01 October 2010 10:52:09(UTC)
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son of skywalker

Can I ask if anyone has asked an OH Doctor or nurse for their opinion? Surely as with other areas competent persons should give advice. If you have no OH doctor or Nurse then get the employee to speak to their own doctor for advice and get it in writing. If they see no specific additional risk at the current point in labour then there is no issue. You would however want guidance on when it would become an issue. As an aside, what about morning sickness? It can be quite debilitating and could affect driving ability. Son of skywalker
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