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silverbunkey  
#1 Posted : 09 October 2010 14:21:19(UTC)
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silverbunkey

I have managed to get an interview working as a HS adviser for a Flour mill and I'm looking for some pointers of the issues that I may experience in such an environment. Or where I can go to find some further reading related to the subject. This is my first job interview as a safety professional after passing my Gen cert so will be an experience in its self. Thanks in advance SB
ITER  
#2 Posted : 09 October 2010 14:27:33(UTC)
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ITER

All of your usual safety regulations will apply. Normal stuff - like transport deliveries/collections, contractors, machinery safety, occupational health, management systems etc etc Probably 2 particulars - occupational aspects of portential flour dust exposure DSEAR - risk of dust explosions, so think about control and mitigation of that risk. Technical aspects - electical ATEX rating and zone ratings etc
simonmillward  
#3 Posted : 09 October 2010 20:00:48(UTC)
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simonmillward

Same advice from me, just try to relax and know your limitations. Apart from that I hope you knock `em dead (not literally)
stuie  
#4 Posted : 10 October 2010 20:48:05(UTC)
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stuie

Hi Silverbunkey; being in a similar industry, ITER has got it about right, however one of my bugbears is housekeeping in controlling the amount of dust present (minimising dust - thus reducing risk); cleaning is the best way to minimise explosion risks - bucket elevators, conveyors etc etc. Also there is some evidence of skin problems, in my industry the main OH risks are COPD and asthma with exposure to grain dusts. Also don't forget STF as dust on a smooth surface can be very slippery. I did my dissertation on exposure to grain dust etc etc - I seem to remember finding some research papers on OH risks and flour etc - which weren't what I was looking for: but I may be able to dig them out if you think they may be of use to you, I also have some papers on the explosion risks etc. - pm me with an email addy if you think that they may be of some use to you. Good luck
peter gotch  
#5 Posted : 11 October 2010 13:19:13(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi SB Try a google for Imperial Sugar to find out how not to control dust explosion risks. The key is to make plant either capable of withstanding internal explosion or deliberately building in weakness - "explosion relief" venting to safe place. ....and cleanliness, plant designed not to release dust, structures designed to minimise ledges on which dust can build up, equipment for effective cleaning, e.g. ring main vacuum. - it's usually the secondary explosion that causes the damage. Very likely to have a primary explosion in this type of premises - I've investigated explosion in an animal feed mill. Explosion relief worked, clean up a bit of mess, start up again within a couple of hours. Good luck with interview.
walker  
#6 Posted : 12 October 2010 08:15:23(UTC)
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walker

Peter , you are showing you age! I think you will find it was British Sugar
peter gotch  
#7 Posted : 12 October 2010 10:42:05(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Walker. Nope. Imperial Sugar - I realise the British Empire long since past but Imperial Sugar explosion in 2008. P
walker  
#8 Posted : 12 October 2010 12:41:34(UTC)
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walker

Not wanting to start a fight ;-) on someone else's post all I can say is there must be lots of sugar factory explosions then. I have in front of me ( I use it for training) page 12 from SHP july 2005. BRITISH Sugar were fined £250k as the result of a fatal accident in July 2003
stuie  
#9 Posted : 12 October 2010 12:57:43(UTC)
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stuie

I am with Peter on this one - there was an imperial sugar explosion albeit in the USA in 2007?, see
stuie  
#10 Posted : 12 October 2010 12:59:03(UTC)
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stuie

Why cannot we edit posts?- apologies it was in 2008
Heather Collins  
#11 Posted : 12 October 2010 13:35:03(UTC)
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Heather Collins

You're both right. Both plants had explosions. Now have a big hug and make up.
Jane Blunt  
#12 Posted : 12 October 2010 14:18:49(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

And if you google 'grain explosions' you will find plenty of examples that are even more relevant. I did once calculate how much flour I would have to render airborne in my kitchen to make an explosive atmosphere - it was over a kilogram. Therefore it does not seem likely in the home!
peter gotch  
#13 Posted : 12 October 2010 15:35:54(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Walker There have been lots of sugar factory explosions - but few hit the UK media. One in Tate and Lyle factory in the States in 1996 made it to the financial pages (full page article) of The Guardian. No serious injuries as I recall but the financial implications noted at http://www.nytimes.com/1...ion-harms-tate-lyle.html
stuie  
#14 Posted : 12 October 2010 16:31:57(UTC)
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stuie

Yes Jane - but what about if you dropped some on the floor at home and then used one of these new fangled vacuum cyclone thingys to suck up the spillage - bet they don't have the appropriate rating on them! :-) - smaller amount of flour in an enclosed space with electrics etc etc - shall we ban vacuuming flour just in case:-)
silverbunkey  
#15 Posted : 13 October 2010 14:45:37(UTC)
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silverbunkey

Thanks for the advice and information that you have provided me. I completed the first stage today and have been invited back for a final interview. Thanks Gavin
sean  
#16 Posted : 13 October 2010 15:05:48(UTC)
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Silverbunkey, good luck with your final interview and you get the job, working in a flour mill you should earn loads of DOUGH!
stuie  
#17 Posted : 13 October 2010 19:09:17(UTC)
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stuie

Good luck Gavin; As it is not Friday yet I will refrain from half baked jokes and quips, I just hope that you rise to the top of the pile, don't give them a load of waffle, beat all of the other candidates that are in the mix, and that you have your cake and eat it!! Good luck for the final stages.
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