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Hi there, has anyone given any thought as to what happens to the numerous people who have been working in health & safety for smaller companies but have not achieved CMIOSH status as yet but are working towards it? What happens to them when the new register is introduced? Are they technically now breaking the law? As it takes 2 years from getting the Diploma or NVQ 4 to achive CMIOSH what happens to these people in the meantime? If you are working within a small consultancy company does everybody need to be CMIOSH in order to offer advice or can a 'senior' consultant oversee things?
I would be interested in your views, for which I thank you in advance.
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Are you referring to in-house employees in the H& S role or as a consultant?
The proposal is for voluntary (therefore non-statutory) register for consulatnts, it has nothing to do with in-house health and safety personnel. The implications , therefore even if you are a consulatant, and not on the register, is that you may not get the work if your clients decised to use the ones on the register.
I personally feel that the greater impact will be how the underwriters/providers of professional indemnity insurance to consultants will in future deal with this development. I very much doubt it as they should be "assessing in some form " the competence of the consultants they provide cover, but i am no expert on the insurance matters!
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Hi Jay, I was reffering to a small consultancy. However you raise a very vaild point re PI.... oh it just gets better.....
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Referring obviously..... and valid.... sorry for my spelling haste.....
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What happens to people like me - I no longer work in IOSH type health and safety/occupational safety, but I do use the knowledge I have and do still do a bit of 'traditional' h&s.
However my job title still has safety in its title - so how does Lord Young's ideas allow for safety engineers who work in design environments/high consequence/remote risk areas of industry.
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Just a quick it does not take 2 years to get from NVQ level 4 in my case to CMIOSH mine was 6 months but i did have three years cpd behind me and 6 years experience. I think you will find they have scrapped the two year rule if you ask them.
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Does it say what level membership is required in the report?
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Andy p 31 of report says 'chartered stautus' but then again it also says that for those employed as H&S Officers an optional lower qualification at 'technician level' coulb be introduced?? Is that not TechIOSH
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It also makes no mention of those who work in public sector who's organisation does not have public liability insurance (one of the criteria for membership). It's voluntary now but what happens when it's made mandatory? I have the qualifications, the years of sweat and blood, greying hair, am chartered but wouldn't be on the register as couldn't apply as no certificate. I don't have any clients as am solely employed by organisation so would unlikely to able to get personal liability insurance either for H&S activities.
If future employers look at this as a gold standard for employing a new H&S advisor then my cv wouldn't get past the gatekeeper! [not that I'm looking for a new job btw...just hypothetically speaking!].
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