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Can anyone who was involved in health and safety before the "six pack" in 1992 please respond - was there the same level and intensity of discussion regarding competence when risk assessment was introduced under the management regs?
There seems to be a lot of concern over competence. Surely the fundamental key objective of a fire risk assessment is to ensure a comprehensive evacuation plan is in place?
And as a safety guy, I'm hoping to soon add my name to the H&S practitioners register - but if I want to get involved in FRA I need to be on another, separate register? Did safety practitioners in the early 1990's require to add their names to "National Registers" to continue doing what they'd been doing?
Is it just me?
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Alex, I've dealt with BAFE registered firms before and I would suggest their scope of operations is pretty narrow - the sale of active fire suppression and detection methods such as FEA and AFA etc.
The website link poses a question over the use of a £500 FRA for the protection of a £10m building with one speaking for and one against. The for statement is alluding to Lord Young and the dumbing down of RA and FRA. Most modern £10m plus buildings rely to a large part on engineered fire solutions with passive protections, fire resistant materials and phased evacuation plans. The old days of fire compartmentation are long since gone on modern developments. A £500 FRA certainly wouldn't cut it.
At the end of the day though, clients will still recognise a CMIOSH consultant as being a one stop shop, identifying all of the risk exposures and control measures needed. BAFE and their like will focus on the fire with a view to selling more FEA.
I personally do not think there is any need to worry about this so called register.
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There are currently a few different registers for fire risk assessors, each run by different organisations and they all involve jumping through hoops and lots of money (in my opinion). The reason I am not on one of them is the excessive cost and if I get on the IFE register my name will not appear on the Warrington register so I may be missed by a prospective client looking for a fire risk assessor.
The new health and safety register will, I hope, allow me to join the register and be a fire risk assesser as well as a health and safety consultant. I do fra's now as part of my general health and safety work, I consider myself as competent in fire safety as I am in other areas of H&S.
To go to your question re 1992 I was there at that time and really no one was competent re the six pack until they got into it. Risk assessment was being avoided by some safety professionals but that soon altered once we all had a chance to get involved.
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