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Phil Grace  
#1 Posted : 22 October 2010 15:48:03(UTC)
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Phil Grace

Lord Young seeks to reduce the burden on the education sector by proposing that there is a single consnet form that "...covers all activties a child may undertake during his/her time at a school." That sounds good - sign away "blind"....! I wonder what Lord Young would say to the mother who is reported as saying that she would never have let her daughter go on an expedition to Dartmoor if she had known that they were not going to be uspervised. See her full quote here: http://www.guardian.co.u...-daughter-death-dartmoor The mother had assumed that the team would be supervised even if from a distance, especially since the weather was getting worse and it was their first time on Dartmoor. The two adult leaders had both left to take an injured person into town and stayed there to have breakfast. Seems like the risk assessment process left something to be desired...! Phil
creative2  
#2 Posted : 02 November 2010 21:22:26(UTC)
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creative2

I work in secondary education and there are situations where consent forms are sent out for all and sundry local and what could be termed normal activities such as visiting the supermarket to take pictures of films for media studies. I cannot see why a global consent form for these sort of activities which are planned for the year and could be viewed as part of the normal curriculum is a problem. There would have to be details on the form of the expected activities. Dartmoor on the other hand would not be one and I am not sure that this is what Lord Young would be meaning as this is certainly of a different order of hazard to a trip into town. Surely there is more of an issue relating to the teachers conduct on the day rather than the paperwork completed before the event. Interesting to know that there are more accidents on local trips than on extensive trips because the leaders see them as safe and do not put in the effort to make assessments realisitic.
Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 04 November 2010 11:24:07(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Creative2, does such a 'blanket' approach not raise other issues beyond duty of care, e.g. impact on those with religous or cultural beliefs? Parents/guardians would surely face an insurmountable dilemma in that circumstance. Does this not then raise equality issues? I do not believe that shoddy piece of work (Lord Young's Report) ever considered the impact or issues here, driven as it was by political dogma and hubris. p.s. second/third attempt to post reply here. If similar message appears, apologies in advance!
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