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LindyB  
#1 Posted : 10 November 2010 10:46:42(UTC)
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LindyB

I see a lot of people on this forum looking for jobs with the general cert. Are these people having any success? I have been in a health and safety advisor role for four years and I am currently looking for a more challenging and rewarding position. I have the NEBOSH dip and a HNC in materials science, I am grad IOSH with a background in metallurgy and heavy industry; in my role I have gained experiance working with a range of disaplins from engineers to warehouse men, in all environments from offices to CDM and everything in between. Yet out of the 15 or more jobs I have appiled for over the last several months I have had no interviews. So back to my original question how bad is it out there for H&S professionals looking for a job? Is anyone having success?
MB1  
#2 Posted : 10 November 2010 10:55:39(UTC)
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MB1

Hi Lindy, I think you will also find people CMIOSH etc have also posted on here regarding employment opportunities too.... I think most would agree it is pretty bad climate, even for professional trades too!
Holland42313  
#3 Posted : 10 November 2010 11:07:10(UTC)
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Holland42313

Hi Lindy What i would say is for you not to give up. MB1 is correct the climate it not too good however have you considered working oversees or in Europe, for the past 5 years i have enjoyed working mainly in Germany and have found that most employers welcome the UK method of safety management. As far as recruitment agencies are concerned ok send your CV but I would not hold your breath waiting for them to call back, my advise is to use the old boys net work, it has worked for me in the past So good luck Regards John H
freelance safety  
#4 Posted : 10 November 2010 11:23:18(UTC)
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freelance safety

It is one of the most difficult times I have come across in almost twenty years. I know lots of CMIOSH members with degrees; post-grads, MSc etc. who are unemployed or who are in a precarious position in the current employment market. That does not mean that there are no jobs out there, nor does it mean that people who are not CMIOSH cannot move forward to a new role. Certain industries have been affected worse than other e.g. Construction is a good example. If you are looking for that all important new role think very carefully about what you are aiming for. Next look at the job market in your specialism and see if opportunities are available. By this I don’t mean send your CV to every agency that you make contact with, quite the contrary. Most agencies are building up banks of CV’s with little or no jobs coming-in. some are even resorting to profiling jobs that don’t actually exist, even the well-known ones are playing the fishing game. My view is that if you have a specialist sector that you are confident is stable enough for you to progress in then contact the companies direct. Send your profile to the most senior person you can i.e. MD/Director/Head of HR etc. If you see a role being advertised by a third party (agent) then speak to them direct and ask them for some further advice about the role before moving any further with it. Don’t be fobbed off with “we cannot provide any until we have your CV” in fact be very cautious if you get an answer like that. Once you do find a role of interest ask for the job-spec; company details; remuneration details etc. Again beware of agencies that inform you that they cannot provide details of employers once you have submitted your CV. The reality is that the job may not even exist and your CV will go on the pile. Very best of luck!
Paul B  
#5 Posted : 10 November 2010 12:40:25(UTC)
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Paul B

Having been made redundant from a position of QHSE manager at the begining of October, I have applied for twenty plus vacancies through recruitment agencies and as far as today not one interview. I then applied for three positions only advertised on Job Centre Plus not with any agencies, direct to the employer and Voala!! Two interviews in the next week . Also with a bit of detective work sometimes you can work out who the agency jobs are for and cut out the middle man.
roydickson  
#6 Posted : 10 November 2010 16:00:56(UTC)
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roydickson

Call me cynical but I am very wary of using recruitment consultants as they all seem to be in it purely for their own gain. There are the odd exceptions of course but not many. I have recently got a new position after applying for many jobs. The furstrating thing is not hearing back from companies or agencies. I heard nothing for ages then suddenly had interviews and have a position starting soon. So there are opportunities out there but I think you need to be selective about applying and try to sort the wheat out from the chaff.
MB1  
#7 Posted : 10 November 2010 16:11:20(UTC)
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MB1

Roy, Unfortunately this has been the norm for some time. Been in full time position for 2 years+ since approaching agencies and still today have messages on the phone!
Stedman  
#8 Posted : 10 November 2010 17:03:15(UTC)
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Stedman

I work for a large employer and over the last 12 months I have made two appointments. The criteria that we currently work with are that we: a. Second or select someone from within our organisation b. Select potential candidates known to us from our HR database. These are candidates who have speculatively written in with their CV c. Potential candidates who are personally known to us. Like many large organisations there is staff introduction incentive d. Advertise through known networking sources e. Approach selective consultants who understand our approach and where we have a pre-agreed fee structure and arrangements f. Finally we would only contact general agencies when other sources have been exhausted. As you can see agencies fall well down our appointment selection hierarchy and times for specialist H&S agencies are very tough at the moment and I would not be surprised if they overrun with candidates at the moment. To be fair we are also receiving speculative CVs from agencies at the moment Having painted the above picture, eighteen months ago I too was made redundant and having put our house up for sale and after setting up plan B and C which possibly involved becoming a crofter in the Outer Hebrides, within one month I had a temporary contracting role and within two months I had landed a better job than the one which I had left and the job was through an agency. Part of this success was down to the development of a comprehensive portfolio where I identified my knowledge, skills (including transferable ones), projects which I had worked on.
LindyB  
#9 Posted : 12 November 2010 11:54:15(UTC)
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LindyB

Thank you all for your responses, I was getting a little disheartened but it is not in my nature to give up, I will take heed of all your advice and keep shooting for the top, Many Thanks Again L
Paul Walsham  
#10 Posted : 12 November 2010 13:55:17(UTC)
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Paul Walsham

I am leaving my full time H&S role at the end of this year to go back into engineering, we have had 64 applicants for my position, these range from the odd chancer with no experience or qualifications to CMIOSH.
Fairview  
#11 Posted : 12 November 2010 15:41:59(UTC)
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Fairview

I resigned from my last employment position in the summer as I was not enjoying the work. Next week I start the the new H&SE job. It took a lot of goes to make my CV stand out from all the rest and to reflect everything I had to offer. It was then posted it on every web site I could find and sent off to every agency in the UK......ish. I must have made over a hundred applications for various HSE positions. I was getting quite a few interviews over this period, about one a week. Most interviewers are poor. Prepare accordingly. I have done this get a job caper a few times now and the answer. Plenty of people with all the skills needed available for every position advertised. The employer recruits on the basis of who you are as a person. If you have the right personality and you have the basic skills you are in. I will be starting a new job and I think it will be an absolute cracker. People with more qualifications than I applied for the position but I sat in front of the panel and sold ME. I was completely honest which utterly failed at some interviews but worked a treat for the job I do want. Getting a job is a job and I devoted hours and days to getting it. never give up, Fairview
Fraser38932  
#12 Posted : 12 November 2010 16:09:00(UTC)
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Fraser38932

It really is tough out there right now in the UK when searching for health and safety work ( especially construction ), especially so when you see the demise of 2 high profile contractors, leaving hundreds of staff unemployed. What you are getting now is dozens of health and safety personell going for one job, with so many disappointed in not getting in. But at the end of the day, all you do is keep trying, something will eventually break if you are not in work. Fairview - its quite a brave decision in leaving your job in the summer knowing that you did'nt have a job to walk into. I know I would'nt have down that no matter how bad things get in the workplace. Good luck in your new job hope it works out well. John
Piperdoodle  
#13 Posted : 12 November 2010 16:45:34(UTC)
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Piperdoodle

I think your best bet in this current climate would be to contact companies directly that you would be weel suited to working in a safety role! What is meant for you will not go past you! Good Luck
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