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safetyinspector2009  
#1 Posted : 17 November 2010 14:54:36(UTC)
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safetyinspector2009

Having conducted a number of health surveillance checks with employees reports have come back detailing at least two employees have a colour vision defect and that we should follow this up through a risk assessment. Whilst I like to think I am fairly proficient, this one has me stumped. Am I to look at the activities that specifically involve them having to distinguish colour, ie painting, operating controls etc, that may involve a greater risk? Or is it more involved than that? I would appreciate your comments Thanks
Laurence  
#2 Posted : 17 November 2010 16:31:37(UTC)
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Laurence

I will be interested to hear responses from this thread. I am colour blind myself, though I have never had any problems in the past operating machinary as most control levers (if coloured) are bold. That is not to say your employees have worsening condition of colour perception such as tritanopia. It may not be apparant at the moment as there may have been no recorded incidents, however if a new piece of equipment is introduced with a rainbow of controls then that is a different story. The only thing colour blindness stopped me doing was joining the police, so you can see it is not such a bad condition after all. ;)
Fletcher  
#3 Posted : 17 November 2010 16:37:12(UTC)
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Fletcher

Afternoon, My previous employment required compliance with Dock Regulations 1988 which required certain staff members to conform to certain medical standards, similar to the Railway. Some of our staff failed their eye tests, mostly because of long term problems but these guys were competent at their jobs. We overcame this by having a special risk assessment for each person, it should be stressed that the OH nurse/doctor did not believe that any person presented a risk to themselves or others whilst doing their normal job because of their visual problems. We detailed the job, its hazards, normal control measures and then referred to the OH nurse's report/ recommendation. We then detailed any extra control measures that would be taken, in all cases we had our training department undertake a yearly continual competence assessment, further to normal accident/ near miss monitoring we flagged all those who had special RAs and if they were involved in an accident then their eyesight problem would be brought into the investigation as a possible factor. This was achieved with the persons, union, HR & Occ Health approval. The system worked for us and none of the personnel who had personal RA's were involved in accidents where their eyesight was a contributory factor. There may be circumstances where this could not be used e.g. a person working on the railway who needed to distinguish red from green but could not. Hope this helps Take Care
RayRapp  
#4 Posted : 17 November 2010 17:36:49(UTC)
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RayRapp

I suggest the issue is the risk and harm which might befall the employees or others due to their condition. This risk will depend on the nature of the tasks which they will be doing and whether the colour issue will affect their ability to do it properly. For example, using machine which has red and green (on, off) buttons which might be confused with each other, could conceivably give rise to a serious risk. Train driver are tested annually for eye sight colour defects. Clearly, if they have a problem distinguishing between green and red, or any other colour, then they would not be allowed to drive a train for safety reasons. Incidentally, green and red when viewed in black and white are very similar in shade, whereas blue and yellow are not.
Bob Shillabeer  
#5 Posted : 17 November 2010 18:02:45(UTC)
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Bob Shillabeer

Sorry Ray train drivers are not tested annually as a general rule. There are Railway Group Standards that specify when and how often drivers are subject to a ful medical examination, this varies according to age. Some train operating companies may well have tighter limits but the group standard is generally the system used. You are right however they are not allowed to drive with defective colour vision. As far as other jobs are concerned if there is a need to differentiate between colour codes such as electrical work, gas work or other colour coded systems then colour vision is critical and must be taken on a case by case basis as fits the type of work undertaken. PS I worked in the rail industry for 45 years and was finally found to be colour blind (Green) and was not allowed to undertake safety critical work or go line side without being accompanied. Not that big a problem for most in the rail industry other than drivers, conductors and signallers.
Ron Hunter  
#6 Posted : 19 November 2010 17:01:17(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

A proper partnership with an Occ Health provider shouldn't be throwing up surprises like this. The range of surveillance applied should be entirely appropriate to the job, established via dialogue and/or contract terms. If the job doesn't have colour vision issues (e.g. electricians) then the issue is entirely irrelevant. Why not ask the provider for clarification? If you're provider is testing and reporting on issues that aren't relevant to the occupation, then you aren't getting good service or value for money.
bob youel  
#7 Posted : 22 November 2010 07:49:37(UTC)
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bob youel

Age can be a big factor/contributor As an example and with ragards to working in sewers; all the staff below a certain age failed [yes failed!] certain fitness/endurance tests we put them thought inclusive of eye sight tests whereas all the staff over 50 passed [yes passed!] the tests so do not get into the trap of thinking that the older a person is the worse they are as that is not always the case
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