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xRockape  
#1 Posted : 24 December 2010 11:03:40(UTC)
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xRockape

Given that its Friday and Xmas Eve I was wondering if you could suggest some controls to help Santa get around safely this evening. The elves with need elf and safety training, particularly in M/H. There are obvious W@H issues!!!! Anything else you can think of?
firesafety101  
#2 Posted : 24 December 2010 11:12:43(UTC)
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firesafety101

Considering the current weather conditions and the number of people already travelling today I recommend Santa stays at home where he can be safely tucked up in front of the telly with a few short ones and mince pies. Why can't Santa have a day off once in a while? bah humbug
firesafety101  
#3 Posted : 24 December 2010 11:16:57(UTC)
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firesafety101

Just so I don't get hunted down and something really nasty happen to me I must say it is Friday and I for one am very excited for Christmas. Not so much for myself but I do have some young children one in particular really believes in Santa and would be soooooooooo disappointed if he didn't turn up tonight with the usual large sack of goodies. Don't worry Santa I'll have the scotch and mince pies ready for your arrival, carrot and milk for Rudolph. They usually make them disappear before the kids get up, no matter how early. A very merry Christmas to you all and don't forget to stay safe through 2011.
Paul Duell  
#4 Posted : 24 December 2010 11:20:37(UTC)
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Paul Duell

Considering Santa's liking for sherry and mince pies, I hope he's considered RIDDOR (Reindeer Involvement with Drunk Drivers and Overweight Riders) And of course he has his very own personalised version of the Noise at Work regulations, COSHH (Control of Santa's Ho HoHo) (Sorry about that one) Merry Christmas one and all, and I hope the bulk of all that PPE (Present Protective Equipment) doesn't prevent him getting down your chimney tonight!
stuie  
#5 Posted : 24 December 2010 11:36:35(UTC)
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stuie

STF - Santa Fun Tonight?
stuie  
#6 Posted : 24 December 2010 11:46:34(UTC)
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stuie

PUWER - Pulling Up Wellies Engines Ready?
Blest31834  
#7 Posted : 24 December 2010 11:55:50(UTC)
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Blest31834

Well, this is what our American OSHA cousins suggest for Santa: For him - http://www.msubillings.e...mor/OSHA_Santa_Claus.htm For his sleigh - http://www.msubillings.e...or/OSHA_Santa_Sleigh.htm And if you have a look on the Festive Fridays pages of the Aviation and Aerospace Group, http://www.iosh.co.uk/gr...oup/festive_fridays.aspx you will see some other hazards that Santa can expect from flying about! Brgds Rod IOSH AAG Web Champion
DP  
#8 Posted : 24 December 2010 12:34:12(UTC)
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DP

Given this statistical analysis - do we actually believe in him? Children visited There are roughly 2 billion children worldwide. However, assuming Santa doesn't visit the children of Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, atheist and so on parents, that leaves the 35 per cent or thereabouts whose parents consider themselves Christian. That's still an impressive 700,000,000 children in a night. Assuming three children per household, that's 233,000,000 stops for Santa and his sleigh. There may be a few households where all the children have been naughty, but we are going to discount them for statistical purposes. Distance travelled If we assume that the 233,000,000 good Christian households are distributed evenly around the world , and the planet's surface area is 510,000,000km (and for the sake of simple calculations we are going to treat the Earth as a square map, rather than a globe), then each stop between households will be around 1.47km (0.91 miles) apart. Santa will therefore have to travel a total of 342,510,000km (212,030,000 miles). Speed of sleigh If he's clever about it, and travels from east to west with the Sun, maximising his available night-time, Santa has about 32 hours to work with (assuming children sleep for eight hours, he has 24 hours plus those eight to finish). Travelling 342,510,000km in 32 hours equates to a speed of 10,703,437.5km/hr (6,650,807.72mph), or a little under 1,800 miles per second, assuming he takes no time actually to deliver the presents or stop for any comfort breaks. The fastest-moving man-made object in history, the space probe Voyager 1, manages a rather less impressive 10.8 miles per second. Number of calories consumed Assuming one mince pie (250kcal for the Co-operative Own Brand in the author's cupboard) and one 50ml glass of sherry per household (58kcal, according to weightlossresources.co.uk) we have 308 calories times 233,000,000 households, or 71,764,000,000 calories total. The recommended daily allowance for an adult male, according to the Department of Health, is 2,550kcal. Santa will therefore eat 28,142,745.1 times his daily dues. If Santa is a 300lb (21 stone) man (not an unreasonable assumption) he will have to walk more than 450 million miles at three miles an hour to burn off his night's excesses. Amount of alcohol consumed The aforementioned 50ml glass of sherry works out at around one unit of alcohol, according to the UK definition. So Santa would be expected to knock back 233,000,000 units over the course of the evening. The daily recommended maximum for a man is four units, meaning that Santa is endangering his health by drinking 58,250,000 times the DoH limits. Worse, he is likely to be in no fit state to drive his sleigh. The legal blood alcohol limit is 80mg per 100mls of blood, or roughly four units (although this of course would be less for a big man). So Santa would also be at least 50 million times the legal driving limit as well, and would probably have his licence revoked. Weight of gifts carried Assuming each child gets the Transformer Optimus Prime, the leader of the Autobots, for a present, in his box, Santa will be carting 659g (1.45lb) per child. That's 461,300 metric tonnes, or about the same in imperial tons, total. For comparison, a Boeing 747-8I airliner can carry 237.5 tonnes in passengers, luggage and fuel. Cost of gifts Optimus Prime is worth £42.99 new. Santa will therefore have to spend a grand total of £30,093,000,000 to provide each child with one, or risk arrest by having his elves make illegal copies. This is the equivalent of the gross domestic product of Costa Rica. Number of reindeer required Assuming reindeer are capable of pulling around 150kg (330lb) each, and that the sleigh itself weighs nothing, then Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Dunder and Blixem will need to hire some help, to the tune of a further three million reindeer, to drag the 461,300-tonne present payload. The percentage of those reindeer required to have red noses is not known. They have a further problem of teaching the new recruits to fly at hypersonic speeds, but they can cross that bridge when they come to it. Amount of energy required to drag the sleigh Assuming that each reindeer is an adult male weighing 600lb (272kg), then the three million required to pull the sleigh will add up to 816,000 tonnes to add to the 416,300 tonnes of toys. To get that up to a speed of 6,650,807.72mph would require around 700 quintillion joules of energy, or the equivalent of 210,000,000,000,000,000 kettles boiling. This assumes that Santa is travelling above the atmosphere, to avoid drag from the air. Of course, when the sleigh descends again into the atmosphere, it, Santa, all the reindeer, and all the presents will immediately be vaporised in the incredible heat of re-entry, thus rendering the whole exercise somewhat pointless.
xRockape  
#9 Posted : 24 December 2010 13:02:01(UTC)
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xRockape

DP Santa is a magical, mystical being of great power and ability. Also on Christmas night he has is allowed to add an extra "Claus" in the working time regs.
stuie  
#10 Posted : 24 December 2010 14:39:32(UTC)
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stuie

BAH HUMBUG DP - have you no morals - ruining my Christmas like that!
kevbell  
#11 Posted : 24 December 2010 14:46:50(UTC)
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kevbell

DP how could you and this close to Christmass Have a good time every one
David H  
#12 Posted : 24 December 2010 19:06:24(UTC)
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David H

Chrisburns said " Considering the current weather conditions and the number of people already travelling today I recommend Santa stays at home where he can be safely tucked up in front of the telly with a few short ones and mince pies. Why can't Santa have a day off once in a while?" Hope you say the same to your staff - however doubt it due to the very quick retraction statement!! Happy Christmas all David
Ciaran Delaney  
#13 Posted : 24 December 2010 21:20:09(UTC)
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Ciaran Delaney

There is a brilliant website "Norad Santa Tracker" which tracks Santas journey. Very effective in getting nephews and nieces to bed asap. Just type Norad Santa Tracker into the search engine and enjoy the look of wonder on their faces
Wizard  
#14 Posted : 27 December 2010 09:57:46(UTC)
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Wizard

DP, Fortunately, for us believers in this World your calculations are adrift. You haven’t including children collected in Hospitals , homes, aboard ships sailing on a cruise etc Santa’s sleigh is today far superior to the one you used to keep an eye open for when you were a child, what date was that………… no not the 25th December. Also vehicles travel faster at night than day because of the reduced friction of the Sun, the moon is smoother being a cheese, together with the use of “black holes”, Stephen Hawkings will update you, he also has many helpers to assist with the chores around the world . Please don’t misunderstand Santa he is rotund and jolly but not obese, like any good jockey he needs to keep his weight down, for speed. The other portion of the mince pies he nibbles at is given to the reindeers ( silly you, you didn’t know that). Santa doesn’t drink and drive he usually saves the sherry in a flask until he gets home when he adds it to the baking of mince pies being cooked by Mrs Clause in preparation for next year. Freezers are wonderful. Cost ? don’t be fooled Santa has many investors and many factories around the world making these toys a great deal cheaper than you think, he doesn’t buy at Harrods like you. There is no weight in space that’s how Santa travels so quickly, tut tut tut And the energy sum is way off the mark, Boyles law states that………………… Thanks Santa for bring my presents…………. Wizard
firesafety101  
#15 Posted : 27 December 2010 14:12:38(UTC)
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firesafety101

David H wrote:
Chrisburns said " Considering the current weather conditions and the number of people already travelling today I recommend Santa stays at home where he can be safely tucked up in front of the telly with a few short ones and mince pies. Why can't Santa have a day off once in a while?" Hope you say the same to your staff - however doubt it due to the very quick retraction statement!! Happy Christmas all David
All my staff had a brilliant Christmas thank you. Santa decided against having the time off and I am grateful as my young children received so many excellent presents and really had a good time. My staff and I did not have any time off as we had seven relatives to cook for, roast turkey and all the usual trimmings, plus a meal in a restaurant yesterday to celebrate my birthday, paid for by my staff. My staff by the way is my good lady wife as I am self employed and she works hard each and every day of the year, as I do myself. I hope the new year is kind to everyone and we can all get rid of the negative attitudes that some still keep a tight grip on. Stay safe and good luck.
paul.skyrme  
#16 Posted : 28 December 2010 00:34:09(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

Bit late I know, however, one you all forgot, Santa has access to Star Fleet Technology. Ye Cannae Deny The Laws Of Physics Captain... Says Scotty, beaming Kirk down to a planet... I know I'm sad... Bye...
Mr H&S  
#17 Posted : 28 December 2010 12:04:28(UTC)
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Mr H&S

If Santa`s boss is anything like My Boss & some Contractors, he can be in more than one place & doing more than one task at a time, thus all prezzies getting to all Merry Xmas JMC
lajad3  
#18 Posted : 29 December 2010 09:48:57(UTC)
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lajad3

One of the safest Christmas holidays, especially in the face of critical hazardous conditions ALL around. The roads, the home, cooking, children increased excitement. I came to this realisation on boxing day as I discovered it was all over. Just 1-day! Compliments of the season to you ALL and a joyous 2011. JA.
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