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Hi..Happy New Year to everyone.
I am still looking to get a first foot on the H&S ladder. I have been sending out speculative letters to some firms, mostly with no reply. I have tried to get the name of the person responsible for H&S for a company. Quite a few times I have been told to contact their HR Dept, or the person I ask does not even know who their H&S contact is.
I wonder just how effective this approach is in H&S job hunting, or are such enquries just "filed" in the waste bin?, or should I review my CV and cover letter.
Regards Mike
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Hi Mike,
It's always difficult to get a foot on the ladder. My only advise is to keep trying. Also your previous work history needs highlighting in the right areas that you are going for, i.e. if you have specialist skills in engineering as well, highlight these points.
Thanks
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Hi Mike,
In the current employment market it might be better for you to offer to work on a voluntary basis to gain some experience. I'm facing redundancy soon and having to offer to work on a voluntary basis even though I'm CMIOSH with over 20 years experience as a H&S Manager!
Regards
Rebecca
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Hi Mike
I was in your situation about 5 years ago when things didn't look as bad and I still had serious difficulty getting that first job!
I did send lots of speculative CVs - what have you got to loose? At first these got me nowhere but as said above offering to shadow existing person or doing some work for a voluntary organisation may help. Once you have a foot in the door it does get a bit easier... Well it did in the good old days :)
My break through came when I started to be very specific, I focused on chemical specific jobs and sold my existing skills (I am lucky enough to have a degree in chemistry and lab experience). Once I started to be more focused I started to get some luck! So in answer to your second point - make sure your cover letter is top notch! I am sure people on these forums will offer to read it for you if you request help!
The Royal Society of Chemistry were amazing, practice interviews, personal careers advisor who gave me a reading list and a list of contacts! If you are a member of any institute use them to the full, you don't pay £100 / year for a magazine :) !
IOSH - well they told me to check the back of SHP thanks guys!
That said my first job came from these forums, again vague 'I want work posts' failed but a very specific request worked a treat! (Worth noting I also had the advantage of being able to relocate to anywhere for work!)
I was also told at uni - send 10 CVs to get one job interview and go to 10 job interviews to get offered one job!
I am sure in the current climate you can up those numbers.
So head down, hassle everyone and good luck, you really do just have to keep plugging!
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throw your net out as wide as possible and look to apply to hundreads of companies and more - go around your local industrial estates as well; looking for face to face contacts - generally I find that HR are very poor so try to get in touch with insiders who may be able to help e.g. process engineers, QA etc
also attend your branches & the various H&S groups
Best of luck
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Thanks for all the advice. Shadowing and voluntary work will not be easy to get as I work shifts, but the rest of the advice I will take onboard and see where I get.
Before someone suggests shadowing my company H&S officer I have already asked about that and was told no!. I will keep trying and with luck I'll get a chance.
Good luck to everyone else looking for work too.
Mike
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Hi Mike
Your cover letter needs to be tailored to each application, and identify how your skills could add value to the specific organisation (which obviously also means doing your research into what they do and where).
Good luck.
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Speculative enquiries are normally most welcome - agencies are very expensive - typically cost £10k to recruit a CMIOSH and frequently they are not very good - I am being very correct to avoid being moderated - from the candidates view it is of course more work but that should be "sold" to the employer - you will need to customise as Peter said - I would also suggest that it was a good way to overcome the CMIOSH hurdle if needed - if I advertise I will put a spec together - if you write and cherry pick your skills and make them appropriate to my business then I may put that ahead of status if they are relevant good luck bruce
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Also look at the recent prosecution - improvement notice info kept by the HSE as those companies may be more likely to here U
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Hi Mike,
I was in the same boat as you a couple of years ago (December 2007 to May 2008 to be precise) and did not have the luxury of a job. I was basically looking for a job and wanted it to be HSE. My chance came from a recruitment agency placing me as temp for 6 months when someone lost their HSE Advisor. If it is of any help, I stayed on and got offered a staff role and have since moved jobs to a larger company and a better known name.
In nutshell, yes it works, but we need to be patient.
Good Luck with finding your first HSE job.
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