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Terry Harris  
#1 Posted : 14 January 2011 02:29:58(UTC)
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Terry Harris

Hi All,

First forum posting.

I have had a reception area contact me with regards to their photocopier, it currently sits in the same office as the coding clerks, their have 4 staff members working in this office, it has ventilation in the form of a few openable windows.

recently the girls in the office have been complaining of lightheadedness, nausea etc.. and after conducting an inspection of the area, i am to believe that it may be the photocopier contributing to the symptoms.

i have researched and had a look around but cant find any regulations to call upon expect from Fire and COSHH,

any ideas?

Thanks

Terry
barnaby  
#2 Posted : 14 January 2011 08:30:24(UTC)
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I'm confused. Who are these 'girls'? Are the staff members bringing their children into work?
safetyamateur  
#3 Posted : 14 January 2011 08:49:03(UTC)
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safetyamateur

Terry, in reality it's unlikely that there's anything significantly hazardous in the emissions from the copier but it's worth having the thing serviced in case there's a filter not been changed for a while. The machine handbook will tell you what emissions to expect and you can then make judgements on what levels might be emitted and what health effects could result.

If the copier's just recently moved into the area staff maybe experiencing a subtle rise in temperature. They also may be experiencing the effects of the subtle increase in noise/distraction too (again, wouldn't expect it to be anything with significant health effects).

If all this is to do with a machine that's been in the area for sometime with no issues, it may be something unrelated to the copier.
Safety Smurf  
#4 Posted : 14 January 2011 09:11:16(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

I can't remember the exact science behind this so I'm hoping someone else will. If the photocopier is conected by a hard surface (such as a desk) to a computer monitor, the vibration (even if otherwise unnoticable) can conflict with the refresh rate of the screen which can cause nausea.

I had a similar case to this about 5 years ago, caued by a clip on desk fan mounted on a partition board. you could try changing the screen refresh rate to see if this makes any difference.
mylesfrancis  
#5 Posted : 14 January 2011 09:14:14(UTC)
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mylesfrancis

Photocopiers (and laser printers) produce ozone which can result in the symptoms being experienced by the staff. This document provides some guidance: http://www.lhc.org.uk/me.../pubs/factsht/76fact.pdf
A Kurdziel  
#6 Posted : 14 January 2011 10:44:12(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

We had a similar problem in an office with a photocopier and we spent some time trying to measure levels of volatile components including ozone. We found nothing. We then found a paper published a few years ago in Australia which suggested that copiers and printers can produce significant levels of respirable particles but that there is no way to tell which photocopiers produce this air pollution. In one case identical copiers in different rooms produced different levels of pollution. It seems to relate to things like age, air circulation in rooms etc.
So moving the photocopier out of the room might be a good idea
In our case; the room with the staff all complaining of headaches etc we soon realised that the problem was not the photocopier but the office manager who was a total ****. It was actually a case of ‘Royal Free Disease’- a form of mass hysteria brought on by the stress of working for this particular individual.
Ron Hunter  
#7 Posted : 14 January 2011 11:26:27(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Terry, have you obtained and considered the content of the manfacturer's hanbook for the machine, which will contain a section on safety in installation and use?
If the machine is a "big" copier and is in high demand there will be changes in temperature, ionisation, ozone and humidity.
If conditions are already "snug" then these problems will tend to affect the comfort of your people

Printers are fine in the office area. Photocopiers - not so much. The Handbook for your machine will no doubt recommend siting in a seperate area.

p.s. beware lhc site and publications - some of these are (IMHO) OTT and alarmist.
chris.packham  
#8 Posted : 14 January 2011 11:36:11(UTC)
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chris.packham

I would tend to agree with Ron about the information in the LHC documentation. If we look at it from an epidemiological viewpoint many thousands of copiers and laser printers (which tend to work on a similar principle) are in use worldwide and the reported incidence of genuine health issues is very low. I would be cautious about assuming that it is the copier that is to blame. Having said this, there are situations where real problems can arise.

We investigated a case of facial contact dermatitis due to one person's intensive use of a copier in a small, unventilated room. The problem occurred once each month, always around the same time of the month. The person was found to be allergic to formaldehyde. The release of formaldehyde from the copier paper when this was heated was not normally a problem, but due to the long period spent at the copier once a month the accumulation short term was sufficient to elicit the reaction. It is not uncommon, incidentally, for paper to contain formaldehyde, but normally this is never a problem, even for someone already sensitised, except where some particular condition (such as this one) occurs.

Chris



Terry Harris  
#9 Posted : 14 January 2011 12:05:51(UTC)
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Terry Harris

Thank you for all your advice guys,

I have asked the department to arrange a service of the photocopier and occupational health check ups for the clerical staff.

I have asked for some health surveillance in that area, checking the manual it does state that the photocopier should be in a well ventilated area and considering that it is used no-stop throughout the day, we are now looking at using an empty office area to situate all the copiers

Terry Harris  
#10 Posted : 14 January 2011 12:07:08(UTC)
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Terry Harris

Terry Harris wrote:
Thank you for all your advice guys,

I have asked the department to arrange a service of the photocopier and occupational health check ups for the clerical staff.

I have asked for some health surveillance in that area, checking the manual it does state that the photocopier should be in a well ventilated area and considering that it is used no-stop throughout the day, we are now looking at using an empty office area to situate all the copiers



I must add, the area will be well ventilated :)
sean  
#11 Posted : 14 January 2011 12:11:08(UTC)
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Terry, I was in exactly the same situation as you 18 months ago and did exactly what you are planning, we moved all the copiers into a ventilated room, we did receive a few complaints from managers who had to walk to use a copier, and I got the usual H&S have ruined everything again attitude, but the staff who were located next to the copiers where really thankful that they had gone.

Its not always easy being a killjoy!!
Safety Smurf  
#12 Posted : 14 January 2011 13:07:18(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

sean wrote:
Its not always easy being a killjoy!!


No....But sometimes it is good fun! ;-)
sean  
#13 Posted : 14 January 2011 13:11:04(UTC)
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No....But sometimes it is good fun! ;-)


Well put Safety Smurf!! I like your style!!
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