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abs  
#1 Posted : 22 January 2011 04:12:54(UTC)
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abs

Hi all, On one of my recent property inspections, I noticed that an extractor fan was installed immediately above the shower head within a communal shower room. I'd say the fan was at max 50cm above the shower head. It looks to be an old installation (possibly during construction phase.) The water pipes sit immediately beside the right hand side of the extractor fan. Can you please advice on the laws around this? I believe this falls under Part P of the Building Regs and there is also mention in the IEE Wiring Regs. Though I believe this is not enforceable for retrospective builds. However I do have a concern surround the safety of people using the shower, due to accidental water spray or in the event of a water leak. I am unsure as to whether the fan is connected directly to the mains or whether it runs off low voltage. I would appreciate your comments and immediate recommendations, with any supported evidence or direction to relevant laws/case and so forth. Thanks in advance. Abs
paul.skyrme  
#2 Posted : 23 January 2011 13:07:23(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

abs, There may be no problems at all with this installation! I would need more info on the install to comment. Such as, IP rating of the fan, operating voltage, manufacturers instructions, ceiling height, circuit details, protective device characteristics. There may be no contravention of the wiring regs at all. Were you undertaking a PIR on the premises? If so you should be able to answer these questions yourself, if not a PIR what inspection were you undertaking to highlight this please? BTW the "mains" in the UK is low voltage anyway.
Canopener  
#3 Posted : 23 January 2011 19:58:55(UTC)
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Canopener

Also, I believe that part P isn't retrospective, so depending on when the installation was done, this may not apply anyway.
bob youel  
#4 Posted : 24 January 2011 13:22:46(UTC)
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bob youel

Talk to a good spark/electrical engineer to get an engineering opinion and thereafter RA After talking to many good sparks etc the conclusion appears to be among them that in some respects the 17th edition is a backward step so complying purely with the 17th edition + building regs without RA as well, is not best practice NB: The 17th edition is not law even though the term 'regulations' is used
paul.skyrme  
#5 Posted : 24 January 2011 18:48:39(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

bob, You are obviously correct with your comments in post #4. I did try to assist but no matter how good a spark / electrical engineer you get, without sight of the site then one can only make broad suggestions! ;) The 17th is a backward step in some ways, however, not long now & the 18th will be out, further progress toward european harmonisation. This will also put right some of the "errors" made in the 17th. I have not read the full draft, not enought ime I'm afraid! IMHO, it won't be long before it becomes a BS EN!
abs  
#6 Posted : 25 January 2011 12:23:35(UTC)
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abs

Thanks all for your input. My recommendation i think will be to get it checked over by an expert and take his findings as final. I shall update you all on their findings. A
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