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Can anyone in the Health Care Industry help me. A colleague's mother is receiving long term care in a nursing home, due to her medical condition she is prone to falling. She is in a single room and gets out of bed in the middle of the night, which is when the majority of the falls occur, there are no bed rails oin place, although a matress has been placed on the floor to help soften a fall. The latest fall has resulted in an arm fractured in 2 places. Should this have been reported to anyone? RIDDOR, local authority etc? Thaks in anvance for your help, being from a manufacturing environment I have no idea how care industry works
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Carol B wrote: there are no bed rails oin place, although
I'm not an expert but I understand side rails when used by NHS requrie specific RA, as they can increase the distance of the fall. I assume a care home would carry out a similar RA.
I have no idea about reporting lines, but outside the scope of RIDDOR
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Carol B wrote:The latest fall has resulted in an arm fractured in 2 places.
Carol, can I take it that she was taken to hospital for treatment?
I can't see that any risk assessment would advocate the placing of matresses to soften any damage in a fall as being suitable and sufficient (if one has been carried out) or even in a patient care plan. The assessment should really identify the need to prevent falls occuring in the first place by adequate controls.
I would advise you friend to challenge the care home as I believe they are falling short in their level of care to his mother.
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Q. Was their any reasoning for not having bed rails in this case?
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Carol B
Any person not at work who is injured and taken to hospital is a category under RIDDOR that requires immediate reporting by the quickest practical means, which is usually by phone.
Reporting arrangements are readily available at www.hse.gov.uk
Nursing Homes are a workplace and therefore are subject to the HASAW 74.
Roly
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Hi
Try the Care Comission as an additional resource, as there are specific requirements that need to be met with regards to inspections of providers of social care
See also this LA circular at the following address
http://www.hse.gov.uk/lau/lacs/79-8.htm
Also, found this on the HSE site
The health and safety of people who use care services is covered by the general requirements of Section 3 of the Health and Safety at Work Etc Act 1974, (HSW s.3) and by the risk assessment requirements of the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations (Reg 3) (MHSWR reg.3). The Provision and Use of Work Equipment Regulations 1998 (PUWER) also set out requirements for work equipment including suitability and maintenance, and instruction and training. HSE and LA Inspectors enforce these requirements.
6. Reporting of Injuries, Diseases and Dangerous Occurrences Regulations 1995 Regulation 3 (RIDDOR), requires that where a person not at work suffers a major injury (as defined in schedule 1 to the regulations) or fatal injury out of or in connection with work must be reported to the relevant enforcing authority. Guidance on understanding the meaning of the phrase “Arising out of or in connection with work” is given in regulation 2(2)(c) of RIDDOR.
Accidents involving service users and bed rails will generally be classed as ‘arising out of or in connection with work’ and will be reportable if they meet the above criteria.
Hope this helps
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Hi Carol,
Usual 'rules' of RIDDOR apply, If the injury was caused by the Care Home's acts or ommissions it would be RIDDOR. If its caused by the frailty of the person it's not. In Scotland we have (what used to be called Care Commission) who certain types of injuries are reported to no matter the cause.
As people are free to leave their beds and as some climb over bedrails it can be practice that these aren't used.
There are specialised mats for floors at sides of beds so anyone with a mobility problem falling out of bed falls onto which when walked over don't bounce as much as a mattress.
There are alarms which can go under the mat to alert carers of movement over them.
These mats won't prevent all injuries though as some frail poeple will still have fractures.
The Care Home won't be permitted to restrain the person in bed so unfortunately this type of injury happens.
It might be that the Care Home needs to check in on this person more regularly but this is unlikely to stop them trying to get out of bed in between visits.
It's an upsetting time for the family and the carers when this happens and if the Care Home is a reputable one they will have taken all the measures that they can. The alternative is a hospital where there is nurse in the same room/ward but even then some 'patients' climb bed rails/get out of bed and have falls.
I'ts all down to independance and control of their own lifes.
Lilian
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~Hi apologies, the focus in my reply was on bed rails , and I appreciate I missed the thread , however it seems that reporting still applies.
Reporting of Injuries, Diseases and Dangerous Occurrences Regulations 1995 Regulation 3 (RIDDOR), requires that where a person not at work suffers a major injury (as defined in schedule 1 to the regulations) or fatal injury out of or in connection with work must be reported to the relevant enforcing authority. Guidance on understanding the meaning of the phrase “Arising out of or in connection with work” is given in regulation 2(2)(c) of RIDDOR.
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Health and Safety in Care Homes - which superseded HS(G)104 may be an interesting read too
Amanda
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Linda, the normal rules of RIDDOR do not apply . Other replies have stated the correct position with regard to section 2(2)(c).
This may be of interest to the original poster. http://www.hse.gov.uk/lau/lacs/79-11.htm. 1049 Riddors for service users in care homes and 26 Improvement Notices issued for bedrails!
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Thanks for you quick and helpful replies. A care plan was in place some months ago, my colleague is now going to check that it has been updated in line with the changes in her condition. I will also pass on copies of the recommended guidance
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CarolB, Q. Was their any reasoning for not having bed rails in this case?
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Carol,
This is not reportable under RIDDOR unless there is something amiss with supervision levels or the individual care plan i.e. the fall was due to the service users health/medical condition. In care homes bed rails are used as a last resort and should be subject to individual risk assessment, problems including climbing over, strangulation in the gaps and loss of dignity/independance. Inevitably there always needs to be a balance between the positive risk benefits of allowing the service user to remain independant, mobile and doing as much for themselves as they can against the risk of injury when working out suitable control measures for their care plan.
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The local EHO's to the home [or Scot equivalent] are the RIDDOR reporting authority
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With the limited information available I suggest that it is probably reportable under RIDDOR (person not at work and taken directly to hospital) and you don't have anything to lose by doing so. Simply report to the Incident Contact Centre via the HSE website and they will pass it to the relevant authority for you (in this case the LAEHO).
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Carol
If the home provides medical care rather than just residential care then it's the HSE that are the enforcing authority and not LA EHO. The accident is reportable under riddor, whether the care home took reasonable precautions or not doesn't make a difference to reportability ~ that would come later if there was any suggestion of a breach of the Act or Regs.
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