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Zanshin67  
#1 Posted : 15 March 2011 13:58:06(UTC)
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Zanshin67

Hi all

I am just in the throws of yes writing my own job description!

a couple of questions I need to answer are:

Describe the decision making in this role?

Why does your job exist?

I have my own answers... What are your thoughts

many thanks?
ptaylor14  
#2 Posted : 15 March 2011 14:48:53(UTC)
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ptaylor14

Professional
1 F
2 S
brett_wildin  
#3 Posted : 15 March 2011 14:52:21(UTC)
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brett_wildin

That's what construction does for you.
Zanshin67  
#4 Posted : 15 March 2011 14:54:23(UTC)
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Zanshin67

Cheers ptaylor 14 an extensive answer ...........not
Andrew W Walker  
#5 Posted : 15 March 2011 15:01:57(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

It does beg the question why are you writing your own job description?

Did your employer have a H&S professional prior to you?
Zanshin67  
#6 Posted : 15 March 2011 15:03:47(UTC)
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Zanshin67

Hi Motorhead

yes my employer did have a former SHE manager

all now subject to job evaluation

Andrew W Walker  
#7 Posted : 15 March 2011 15:25:22(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

Your job exists because your company has a moral and legal duty to ensure the safety of its employees, and the safety of any other person who is affected by what it does, you are there to advise so they can do this. And to keep the managers and directors out of jail! But you can't put that bit in. I am presuming you are there as an adviser.

As for decisions; not sure what your remit is within the company. Do you have to make any at the moment?

safetyamateur  
#8 Posted : 15 March 2011 15:41:53(UTC)
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safetyamateur

My job exists because people need a reason to roll their eyes, shrug their shoulders and hide round corners when they see me coming.
Andrew W Walker  
#9 Posted : 15 March 2011 15:43:19(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

safetyamateur wrote:
My job exists because people need a reason to roll their eyes, shrug their shoulders and hide round corners when they see me coming.


and to rename your post to "Profit Prevention Officer"
Canopener  
#10 Posted : 15 March 2011 18:34:28(UTC)
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Canopener

David

I was similarly perplexed at the 'answer' at #2!! Why bother?

I could e mail you a copy of my current JD which may help. PM me with your e mail address if interested

Phil
Invictus  
#11 Posted : 16 March 2011 07:16:04(UTC)
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Invictus

safetyamateur wrote:
My job exists because people need a reason to roll their eyes, shrug their shoulders and hide round corners when they see me coming.


Very Good
pl53  
#12 Posted : 16 March 2011 10:35:01(UTC)
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pl53

IOSH - The Institution of Spelling Hair-splitters
13farrar  
#13 Posted : 16 March 2011 10:57:50(UTC)
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13farrar

safetyamateur wrote:
My job exists because people need a reason to roll their eyes, shrug their shoulders and hide round corners when they see me coming.


Good one.
KieranD  
#14 Posted : 16 March 2011 16:43:29(UTC)
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A title recently published by the IOSH, 'Be the Best' by Richard Byrne offers proposals that are both down-to-earth and inspirational.

He offers both encouragement and challenge that can enable you to create great opportunities for yourself and other stakeholders in occupational safety and health.
torkee878  
#15 Posted : 16 March 2011 22:50:28(UTC)
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torkee878

A word of caution, the book mentioned by Kieran has a huge flaw - it makes little or no reference to 'occupational health' and even repeatedly refers to the safety professional. In that very important aspect it is very behind the times. I was surprised that IOSH have put their seal of approval to it given the increasing importance rightly placed on the 'health' part of our role.
Mark Lovibond  
#16 Posted : 17 March 2011 00:18:46(UTC)
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Mark Lovibond

David1967,

I have sent you a PM as I think I can help you out a bit.

KieranD  
#17 Posted : 18 March 2011 10:32:01(UTC)
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What 'turkee' refers to as a 'huge flaw' and 'completely behind the times' in 'Be the Best' can equally be interpreted as a partial limitation and 'way ahead of the standarrd of most OSH practitioners'.

It's true that Byrne probably slips up with the expression 'safety professional'. A careful unbiased reading will also reveal that he explicitly refers to 'occupational health' numerous times.

He also emhasises consistently how oversight of employee health is best divided across the senior management team members so that OSH leaders ADD VALUE by ensuring health and safety are given due priority funding and is delivered.

19th and 20th century disputes over territory and labels, Byrne argues, are best left to those unwilling or unable to add value through what he calls 'widening the profit margins' through OSH design and delivery.

Bearing in mind the question raised on this thread, 'turkee's observation is exactly what Byrne is challenging: the 'silo' approach that is, at best, pre-1974.
pl53  
#18 Posted : 18 March 2011 10:36:36(UTC)
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pl53

The name's torkee878. Referring to him as turkee once may be a misprint. Doing it twice is a deliberate and childish insult.
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