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Richard Rose  
#1 Posted : 22 March 2011 10:14:28(UTC)
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Richard Rose

Hi folks,

I recently had a rep from the local water authority in doing an inspection, and a few things need to be addressed to keep us compliant.

The only paperwork item is a need for an L20 report, i am not very sure what this entails, having never done one before. Can i assume its the same as Legionella duties under law from the HSE guidance, i.e. identify Risk sources, have a procedure for controlling risk, implement the scheme, keep records of checks etc.

I just wasn't sure if it was another name for a standard legionella procedure etc.

all advice welcome.

thanks all.

Rick

Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 22 March 2011 10:55:03(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

L8 would make sense, being the HSE's Legionella ACoP. Never heard of L20 though.
Richard Rose  
#3 Posted : 24 March 2011 10:11:47(UTC)
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Richard Rose

Well i will crack on with the HSE guidelines, as its looks the most common sense approach and covers what i would expect it to cover.

If its not appropriate for the water authority, i am sure it can be tailored to suit.
skb  
#4 Posted : 24 March 2011 11:10:41(UTC)
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skb

I think you will find that the visit was to advise you of the Water Supply Regulations, we had such a visit last year from the local Water Authority, the main concern was that all fittings connected to the mains water complied with these regulations.
Richard Rose  
#5 Posted : 24 March 2011 11:56:13(UTC)
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Richard Rose

Yes, thats what the visit was, we have a few pipework modifications required, however the rep also stated we needed a legionella plan, and it was called a L20.

However i am simply doing a risk assessment and putting controls in place, which is all i would expect is required.
Invictus  
#6 Posted : 24 March 2011 12:43:02(UTC)
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Invictus

You need to get a copy of L8 to comply with the requirements for legionella. Just simply doing a risk assessment will not meet the requirements.
Invictus  
#7 Posted : 24 March 2011 12:44:50(UTC)
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Invictus

farrell wrote:
You need to get a copy of L8 to comply with the requirements for legionella. Just simply doing a risk assessment will not meet the requirements.


Of course the more information you can give the better, i.e. how large is the company you work for, number of employees, processes etc.
Richard Rose  
#8 Posted : 24 March 2011 12:56:01(UTC)
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Richard Rose

Its not just a risk assessment, i have found 1 area that could be a Legionella source, a sink\taps that are rarely used, so need to ensure they are used every now and then each week to keep water flowing. But my Fab shop doesn't have a lot of water sources, no aircon, only 5 tap outlets, and the only other issues of standing water are being removed in the required upgrades for the water authority.

So its more a Legionella procedure with the risks being assessed as part of it. Its not just a quick risk assessment, however upon assessing the risks, we have almost none.
Ron Hunter  
#9 Posted : 24 March 2011 13:00:34(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Hmm......L20 is apparently a microbial designation for Actinobacillus pleuropneumoniae. Could be that what you do to control legionella in accordance with L8 will also deal with these pesky L20 blighters too.
That said, I think the best thing would be to ask the person requesting the action.
Richard Rose  
#10 Posted : 24 March 2011 13:02:17(UTC)
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Richard Rose

Thats the issue, he is off on holiday (typically haha).

I am drawing up the controls for legionella according to HSE L8 guidelines, if he wants something different i will alter it. At least this way i have some form of controls in place and have worked towards correct compliance.
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