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Jay246  
#1 Posted : 24 March 2011 16:14:05(UTC)
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Jay246

Scaffolding experts please :- Scenario: a scaffold company is contracted to erect a basic acces scaffold for a contractor but they want to charge a high price for an operative to come out and carry out weekly inspections. The construction manager wants to send 2 of his operatives (Agent & Foreman) on a 2 day Scaffold safety inspection course to enable them to carry out the inspections instead. Is this acceptable so long as this stays a BASIC scaffold or should he pay the scaffold company to do this?
Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 24 March 2011 23:02:15(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Excellent idea. Attendance will also allow for more meaningful scaffold handover processes in future, with these individuals able to identify common faults that some of the less scrupulous erectors sometimes try to get away with. (split/damaged boards, poor footing, off-plumb, untested ties, rubbish ladders etc.)
boblewis  
#3 Posted : 25 March 2011 00:11:34(UTC)
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boblewis

Ron Not to mention poor tie spacing, non designed loading bays, wide standard spacing - the list could be endless. Jay Do make sure any training covers both the BS En for system scaffolds and TG20 for tube and fitting Bob
brett_wildin  
#4 Posted : 25 March 2011 06:44:24(UTC)
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brett_wildin

Jay, We have had operatives trained to carry out scaffolding inspections for a number of years. We have sent for example relevant trades, who will be using the scaffold over a period of time e.g. bricklayer, carpenter and roofer (working foreman). Returns are definately worth while. Brett
bob youel  
#5 Posted : 25 March 2011 10:09:50(UTC)
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bob youel

Great idea for basic scaffolds; but do not forget that this is not just a tick box activity so your people must be able to demonstrate independence and impartiality as some costs may come back to U if the scaffold is not correct and its demonstrated that your days to day users [including subbies] are to blame
Ron Hunter  
#6 Posted : 25 March 2011 12:50:01(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Hence my reference to a more informed initial handover process Bob. There should IMHO be more emphasis on the competence of those accepting the scaffold at handover. Scaffold subbies are also much more willing to rectify faults if it means no payment! Good handover knowledge should help eliminate the "yes it was" /"no it wasn't" problems arising later in the contract.
boblewis  
#7 Posted : 25 March 2011 19:18:14(UTC)
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boblewis

Ron You are hitting the right nail on the head - the management of scaffolds on site is often not good and any training has to be of benefit even if the scaffolder is doung the inspections. Bob
Jay246  
#8 Posted : 28 March 2011 09:21:23(UTC)
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Jay246

Thanks for all your replys, I will look at our current handover process to see if it is suitable. I have also asked our own SHE advisor to speak to the operatives regarding impartiality and the need to stop work if required etc. Once again , thanks for the response and advice J
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