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Merv  
#1 Posted : 28 March 2011 13:01:12(UTC)
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Merv

Does anyone have any comments on this ? http://www.dailymail.co....aced-electric-wands.html Merv
m  
#2 Posted : 28 March 2011 13:10:03(UTC)
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m

Is it just a flash in the pan? Seriously, could be a good way to deploy fire fighters with long hoses to inhibit their movement. You would want to make sure that you don't get a shock if the fire has already been tackled with water.
ahoskins  
#3 Posted : 28 March 2011 13:25:05(UTC)
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ahoskins

Putting the flame out without removing the heat (as with using water) wouldn't br very successful and any decent fire would just reignite - surely...
firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 28 March 2011 13:32:54(UTC)
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firesafety101

and what about the people you hit with the odd misguided lightning bolt?
phow  
#5 Posted : 28 March 2011 13:40:19(UTC)
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phow

Yes, combustables will re ignite unless they are cooled to below their "autoignition temperature". Typically a few '00 deg C. A boiling over Chip pan fat spontaniously catches fire even on a ceramic hob, where there are no flames present, if the surface temperature is hot enough. Peter
Bob Shillabeer  
#6 Posted : 28 March 2011 14:01:03(UTC)
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Bob Shillabeer

This is serious topic raised simply because there is a theory that it can work. However, it must be taken in the correct context. The report I read stated that it does not mean that fire hoses are a thing of the past. It is results from a university research that indicates that it can work. It is simply a means of improving escape rather than fighting fires as it wont work in larger spaces but would work in the likes of submarines. As many fire exoerts know heat is the main contribuitor to a fire being sustained and water is used to reduce the temperature as quickly as possible and remove oxygen from the atmosphere thereby starving the fire of fuel. It must be remembered this electric theory is very young in its development as a piece of university research so is unlikely to become the norm.
Guru  
#7 Posted : 28 March 2011 14:04:53(UTC)
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Guru

Interesting read....initially reading the article, I had to double check the date was not April the 1st!
firestar967  
#8 Posted : 28 March 2011 14:14:29(UTC)
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firestar967

Wearing these backpacks does that mean firefighters get a theme tune like ghostbusters? ;-)
Jane Blunt  
#9 Posted : 28 March 2011 14:37:13(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

This is an intriguing idea. Yes, if things are above their autoignition temperature they will tend to re-ignite - but one of the suggestions was that they would replace sprinklers, in which case perhaps they would keep zapping the flame. Remember that halon (now banned for environmental reasons) worked, not because it smothered the fire or cooled it down, but because it directly interfered with the chemical reactions in the flames. I'm waiting to see a working prototype!
David Bannister  
#10 Posted : 28 March 2011 14:51:43(UTC)
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David Bannister

I suspect guru is closest to the real story. Editorial team makes error in releasing story 4 days early. Anyway it's the DM...
Canopener  
#11 Posted : 28 March 2011 16:16:38(UTC)
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Canopener

As Jane says. Intriguing' for sure. Should Jedi knights apply for interview?
firestar967  
#12 Posted : 28 March 2011 19:02:09(UTC)
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firestar967

Don’t know Phil trusting in the DM could be a move to the dark side....
Canopener  
#13 Posted : 28 March 2011 21:19:41(UTC)
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Canopener

Ah yes the DM, reminds me of that other publication 'King and Country' - soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent!
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