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Recent discussion here has addressed the H&S provision for those with 'dangerous' public service jobs. I notice with a mix of sadness and, I admit, a degree of wry amusement, a Sky News photo of a Libyan rebel firing at government forces. Obviously prepared to kill or be killed, he is nonetheless mindful of his own long-term welfare and has taken the precautionary step of wearing ear plugs! http://news.sky.com/skyn...lict%3A_Latest_Pictures#jump to image 11, or link directly: http://news.sky.com/sky-...1/Mar/Week4/15962816.jpg
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Some of these rebels were previously Government Troops who've swapped sides. Training sticks?
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In the dim and very distance past when I served in 17 Training Regiment Royal Artillery we were originally given cotton wool to stuff in our ears when out on the range with the guns (25 pounders) later we got proper ear muffs.
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Ah, the Friday thread has been resurrected - albeit a day early!
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In my day ear plugs were for storing not wearing on the ranges .............. lol
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Well spotted Ron! Blue band...
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In 1980 we had the new ear protectors for ranges, and in 2008 we had the battery operated ear piece where you can hear people give the orders and cuts out the noise
They were the days as we say, if it aint raining it aint training
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When ships were made of wood and men were made of steel, were is me rum
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Change now to red bands..............
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Left RAF SAR 13 years ago but all through our Loadie training we were advised to wear ear plugs as in additiion to protecting our hearing it made the intercom system clearer to hear.
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Terry556 "They were the days as we say, if it aint raining it aint training"
So you've experienced the garden spots of the Brecon Beacons too then - did my final survival exercise there in winter - deep joy !
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An interesting observation Ian. The last picture of ATC at Malta Luqa reminded me that you can listen to some of the various military air movements associated with the conflict at http://www.liveatc.net/flisten.php?mount=lmmlSo can the 'Colonel'
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Ahh yes, the skirmish range in Sennybridge where the instructors would not let us wear ear defence for 'safety reasons'! Those were the days. And why did I seem to spend every other exercise there, interspersed with trips to other rain magnets like Warcop and Ballykinler? Edited by moderator 01 April 2011 16:13:25(UTC)
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Brecon lovely place, the only place in the UK where the sun don't shine,
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terry556 wrote:Brecon lovely place, the only place in the UK where the sun don't shine, I beg to differ Terry, I had sunshine there once, but it was closely followed by rain, then sleet, then snow...... 4 seasons in a day...
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Myself included - seems to be quite a few ex military in the ranks of IOSH.
I wonder (roughly) how many of the 38,000 members are ex military?
Rich
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I reckon there's a hell of a lot. There's not a lot of work out in the real world for specialist jobs like weapon engineers, radar operators and the like. A lot of guys I know have looked at the resettlement courses available when leaving and picked the most valuable/useful ones such as Nebosh and got into the H&S industry that way. I suppose the disiplined background and the ability to communicate on all levels helps.
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Ahhh a scattering of Pongos, Crabs and Skimmers eh. "Diesel Boats Forever" DBF
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Franky wrote:Ahhh a scattering of Pongos, Crabs and Skimmers eh. "Diesel Boats Forever" DBF Oh Dear! Somebody get this man top-side, he's been in the battery bay too long! ;-)
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What a great army U guys have been in as when I took the queens shilling [or in my case £4/10 shillings a week!] there was no such thing as ear defenders, body armour nor re-settlement courses etc and the ROE = Win; irrespective of other areas
Best of luck
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Keep risks to own force ALARP.
Heap molten metal on the enemy, wait for it to cool prior to advancing.
Do rapid risk assessments (RRA) - similar to fire service 'stand or run'.
No plan survives first contact.
Remember that no incoming fire is friendly. Aim to end the day as fit (or moreso) than you started it.
Be safe
S
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bob youel wrote:What a great army U guys have been in as when I took the queens shilling [or in my case £4/10 shillings a week!] there was no such thing as ear defenders, body armour nor re-settlement courses etc and the ROE = Win; irrespective of other areas
Best of luck
Bob, that was the Boer War for you ;) Seriously things have changed drastically in recent years, losing Crown Immunity, Human Rights Acts, H&S etc, and rightly so...
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MOD's position is that it can be prosecuted under Corporate Manslaughter but Section 4 means it can't be prosecuted for war or training for war.
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