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Hi all
can anyone distinguish between what:
A H+S manager is?
A H+S advisor?
the same or different..................
cheers
Dave
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Advisor gets paid less.
Semantics really, IMHO.
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An adviser does just that Advises
A manager has authority to actually get something done?
Probably at the end of the day it will vary from job description to job description and the way different companies are organised and many different names will be used for the same thing.
A rose by any other name as some one once said.
Brian
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Generally I would consider the title 'manager' to refer to someone with responsibility for managing a team. An adviser advises as Brian said above.
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A manager manages, i.e. has direct authority and control over certain aspects of the business and therefore also responsibility for his particular remit. An advisor provides advice to others but has no direct authority to take decisions or make changes.
Chris
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I'd include reference to budgets as a manager normally manages one, whereas an advisor/coordinator does not normally do so.
I seem to recall that Croners (or equivalent) used to have a really good (ie long!) definition on each
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My take is this;
An Advisor advises, Where as a Manager gets Blamed for absolutely everything!
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I am the Health & Safety manager, for the company I work for, I advise on H & S issues, I carry out investigations, the only thing different is, I can shut down any machine, or process within the factory if there is a health & safety issue, without going through the senior management, as I have the authority from the president of the group I work for
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What about the H&S Client Manager? Or the H&S Coordinator? Or the H&S Officer (remember them)? Or the H&S Business Partner... IT WOULD BE NICE TO MEET JUST A H&S MANAGER AND ADVISOR sometimes...
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People can call me what they want as long as I ensure everyone goes home in the same type of transport that they turned up in!
Sorry dbeese I dont meet up with strange men.
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...a few strange ones on here that's for sure!
Perhaps you have hit the nail on the head; it is what we do that defines us and not what we are called (that said I get called a lot at work...! )
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Funnily enough I don't really hear what they call me because people seem to start muttering when I walk in......
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I advise all levels of management and staff within our company on matters of H&S, I have the authority to stop processes without prior consent from senior management if there is a H&S issue, investigate all reported accidents / incidents, remove contractors from our site where I deem necessary, instruct supervisors to carry out particular tasks related to H&S in the workplace etc etc etc.
My contract says I'm an advisor.
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I have been a:
Health & Safety Consultant
HSO Co-ordinate
Assistant HSEQ Manager
Health & Safety Manager
Health & Safety Adviserr
and current Health, Safety, Environmental and Building Services Manager!
Just need to be a Health & Safety Officer and then I have the set! :)
And to quote what previous people have said..if your an adviser in the company you don't get the blame, when your a manager you get the blame. Pretty much it!
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Just for reference, there is a legal difference.
An "Adviser (or Advisor)" is just that, whereas a manager has specific responsibilities to manage and therefore carries the appropriate liability. The case of R v Boal [1992] QB 591, [1992] 3 All ER 177, might give some assistance.
Regards.
DJ
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djupnorth wrote:Just for reference, there is a legal difference.
DJ There is no legal obligation just on the basis of a specific job title! HSE's website makes it clear that there are other factors to be consider such as whether the individual manager actually had control over the matter in hand http://www.hse.gov.uk/en...dentifying/directors.htmIn addition if you actually read R v Boal, the conviction was quashed on appeal - essentially on the grounds that the appellant (an assistant manager in a bookshop) did not have day to day management responsibilty despite his job title. http://oxcheps.new.ox.ac...er%2025/R%20v%20Boal.doc
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