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ivorheadache  
#1 Posted : 24 April 2011 08:56:35(UTC)
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ivorheadache

Hi. A small office (circa 16 office staff). 2 means of escape and in the hot weather they like to open the rear fire exit (exit does not cover a protected escape route). The problem is the sun shines on the car bonnets and dazzles a couple of staff sitting facing the door.

The question I have been asked is can they put some sort of removable beaded curtain over the door when it's open. From a fire risk I see no issue as the door is already open and there is a 2nd means of escape from this small office.

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? I know moving desks is a solution but not always practicable due to desk layout, power sockets etc.
rockybalboa  
#2 Posted : 24 April 2011 13:03:40(UTC)
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rockybalboa

Im sure ill get shot down for even suggesting putting something in front of a fire escape thouhg why dont you get an aluminium light chainmail curtain.

You can see them in shops to keep bugs and stuff out i believe. It`s not flammable, harldy going to impede someone escaping and, though its not designed for this as its primry purpose, it might cut down glare.

As you suggested, moving the furniture is the easiest way but if youre dead set on it then maybe something similar to this is a solution.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/...id=1303646311&sr=8-1
bilbo  
#3 Posted : 26 April 2011 10:32:23(UTC)
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bilbo

ivorheadache - the suggestion for a removable beaded curtain will not prevent the glare from car bonnets. Closing the door will. I think you should question why the door needs to be opened - is it for fresh air, regulating temperature or what? On the face of it this is a pretty minimal risk and most likely better described as an inconvenience - a fact of life - someone somewhere is going to be affected by glare from the sun. It won't be for too long though - as the sun moves!
Safety Smurf  
#4 Posted : 26 April 2011 10:42:08(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

bilbo wrote:
ivorheadache - the suggestion for a removable beaded curtain will not prevent the glare from car bonnets. Closing the door will. I think you should question why the door needs to be opened - is it for fresh air, regulating temperature or what? On the face of it this is a pretty minimal risk and most likely better described as an inconvenience - a fact of life - someone somewhere is going to be affected by glare from the sun. It won't be for too long though - as the sun moves!


The sun moves? Is Earth flat? ;-)
rockybalboa  
#5 Posted : 26 April 2011 11:05:26(UTC)
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rockybalboa

bilbo wrote:
ivorheadache - the suggestion for a removable beaded curtain will not prevent the glare from car bonnets. Closing the door will. I think you should question why the door needs to be opened - is it for fresh air, regulating temperature or what? On the face of it this is a pretty minimal risk and most likely better described as an inconvenience - a fact of life - someone somewhere is going to be affected by glare from the sun. It won't be for too long though - as the sun moves!


People being people they will open the door Bilbo. Do you reckon cause the safety guy said that the fire door must be closed it will be done? that the people would rather stew in the hot weather rather than open the door for a breeze? No, I don’t think so. Unless the company are to install a new air con machine which seems like a 100 quid solution to a 50p problem then the door will most likely be used as a source of air circulation and temperature control.

The chainmail thing was a long shot but at least it was a suggestion that would cut down on some direct light and would reflect some away as metal is reflective.

Saying it is a fact of life and tough luck is hardly productive is it. Have you tried to work with glare constantly on your screen – it is difficult. How would you feel if someone came to you with that answer. “No it is a minimal hazard in my opinion, I don’t care about your eye strain or how it affects your workplace stress levels, No close the door and stew or keep it open and tough luck – my office is fine by the way, if it were my desk Id have that remedied!”

I think they'd say I’m not going to ask that guy for help again.

lol at Galileo reference ;)
bilbo  
#6 Posted : 26 April 2011 11:15:18(UTC)
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bilbo

Whoa Rocky! - you are putting words in my mouth. I did say that it was necessary to establish the reason for the door opening and it may well be that there is a perfectly acceptable way of getting round this. Moving desks and/or screens seems possible. I did not discount it as you seem to allege but was trying to be helpful. It is a case of working with the persons affected.
rockybalboa  
#7 Posted : 26 April 2011 11:30:53(UTC)
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rockybalboa

Not trying to put words in your mouth, must just have been the way I picked up on your post. Yes, working with the people affected I do agree with.
Ron Hunter  
#8 Posted : 26 April 2011 12:31:27(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

I take it security is not thought to be an issue.
wolrad  
#9 Posted : 26 April 2011 12:36:08(UTC)
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wolrad

I think opening a door in an office when it is 26 degrees is a good idea! But in answering the question. Move the cars?
David Bannister  
#10 Posted : 26 April 2011 15:23:15(UTC)
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David Bannister

Is it possible to put some kind of screen behind the couple of DSE sceeens? It could perhaps be as simple as a sheet of cardboard and blu-tac (other sticky stuff is no doubt available).
Another alternative may be to remove the offending car parking spaces on days when the sun is expected to shine from the offending angle.
SP900308  
#11 Posted : 26 April 2011 15:40:39(UTC)
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SP900308

Work nights?
SP900308  
#12 Posted : 26 April 2011 15:44:34(UTC)
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SP900308

On a serious note - I'd follow stuff4blokes on his suggestion!
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