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JPOM  
#1 Posted : 04 May 2011 12:07:03(UTC)
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JPOM

Good afternoon everyone.

Can anyone offer advice on different methods they use to calculate the above.

I work in manufacturing (metal packaging). We currently use the number of days lost method, but find that people with what we'd consider to be severe accidents (lost fingers, deep cuts etc.) sometimes return to work faster than people who've had less severe accidents.

Does anyone use or know of a grading system they could recommend?

Thanks in advance
Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 04 May 2011 13:08:47(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Presumably your intention is to quantify the actual cost of accidents. Would an additional factor discussing the cost of remedial action, or indeed whole costs not be of benefit?
How much did it cost (in down time, investigation, remedial work etc.) to remedy the incident that resulted on someone being seriously injured?
(Not forgetting how much it could still cost if HSE decide to take action).
What is the cost of a First Aider leaving their day job along with the IP to attend to those minor injuries?

Limiting discussion to "days lost" can lose impact, particularly where sickness absence is already identified as a greater concern.
JPOM  
#3 Posted : 04 May 2011 13:22:51(UTC)
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JPOM

Hi Ron,

The cost isn't the issue. We're a global metal and glass packaging company, so with all the differing pay rates, regs and methods of compenastion we'd never get a standard on accident costs.

It's just we feel that when we currently report on severity using the days lost calc, it's not a true reflection of the consequence of the accident.

A guy could lose a finger and return to work on light duties after a month, while someone with a back strain could be off for a lot longer.

The back will hopefully get better, the finger won't grow back, yet using our current system the back strain would be considered more severe injury.

I'm hoping someone can point me in the direction of some sort of severity grading system, if such a thing exists.

Thanks for the reply anyway.
Kate  
#4 Posted : 04 May 2011 13:32:33(UTC)
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Kate

Isn't the answer in the RIDDOR and/or OSHA criteria - the lost finger being a major injury / medical treatment and the bad back a lost time?
JPOM  
#5 Posted : 04 May 2011 13:50:11(UTC)
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JPOM

Thanks for the answer Kate.

We use those terms when we report the accident to Group, so people are aware of how severe an individual accident is.

What I'm looking for is something we can use to create a KPI to truely reflect accident severity. We're currently using TIR which is where the number of lost days is distorting the severity of injuries.

Kate  
#6 Posted : 04 May 2011 14:44:38(UTC)
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Kate

Don't you just need to calculate the major injury rate?
Terry556  
#7 Posted : 04 May 2011 14:56:56(UTC)
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Terry556

Most companies these days use the LDFR, but you can average the accidents to a percentage by calculating the accidents by the hours worked in that month for your KPI,s
Guru  
#8 Posted : 04 May 2011 15:07:34(UTC)
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Guru

Severity rates are always based on number of days lost so I cant quite work out how you could factor all things in to this one calculation.

You could however do an additional frequency rate called Major Injury Rate or Disabling Injury Rate, where after defining what would qualify as such an injury you could show both your normal severity rate, and your new major injury rate?

Nb of Major Injuries x (your multiplier) / number of days lost
imwaldra  
#9 Posted : 05 May 2011 09:44:05(UTC)
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imwaldra

Are you aware of the US definition of 'Recordable Injury'? - it's less than lost time, but more than first aid, i.e. when treatment is needed from a medically trained person. As lost time injuries become rarer, many organisations use that is their main measure.
Full details are defined by OSHA and US-based organisations who use the definition can get awfully hung up on some of these, in their attempts to minimise their numbers of 'recordables'. But for a UK-based organisation, maybe you could adopt the principle without worrying whether a particular type of bandage is classified as what, as I have seen others do!
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