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redken  
#1 Posted : 12 May 2011 08:37:33(UTC)
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Bob Howden  
#2 Posted : 12 May 2011 08:39:54(UTC)
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Bob Howden


Sorry - I can't get your link to work.

What's it about?
Guru  
#3 Posted : 12 May 2011 08:48:53(UTC)
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TDS1984  
#4 Posted : 12 May 2011 09:09:06(UTC)
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TDS1984

Bit OTT if the procedures had been followed as the guy claims, but without all the details it's difficult to say much more.
A Kurdziel  
#5 Posted : 12 May 2011 12:05:08(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

It seems to me a story about managers hiding behind protocols, procedures and risks assessments and not using their own judgement. See my comments on the ‘Exempting the police from H&S legislation’ thread.
If we were going to start sacking people why not sack the person who told the station manager that that the power had been switched off and then hadn’t done it?
We could sack the other employees who were at the station but didn’t notice this ... the list of people who could be sacked is endless or you can just get on with the job using your judgment to recruit and train staff who know what they are doing, yunno manage stuff!
RayRapp  
#6 Posted : 12 May 2011 12:19:27(UTC)
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RayRapp

The prima facie facts suggest the station master has been given a raw deal, especially if he informed the signalman that he was going onto the track to remove debris. However, the story does not make sense from a number of angles. For instance, the signalman normally only controls the signals and the Line Controller the traction current, although the signalman could have advised the LC. The person going onto the track would normally wait for confirmation that TC has been discharged and there are no trains approaching before going onto the track, the exception possibly an emergency situation. Was this an emergency situation?

DNW  
#7 Posted : 12 May 2011 12:22:55(UTC)
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DNW

If I were his solicitor I'd be grinning from ear to ear.
teh_boy  
#8 Posted : 12 May 2011 12:33:50(UTC)
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teh_boy

quote=RayRapp]However, the story does not make sense from a number of angles. The exception possibly an emergency situation. Was this an emergency situation?



I agree... It is a odd story. Maybe someone from the rail industry can provide some proper information?

1) I am sure there are strict protocols and permits to ensure the line is dead before anyone goes on, why was this not done?
2) What was the emergency? Surely just stop the train and follow proper protocols to make safe?
3) HE COULD BE DEAD!!!!!
4) Why would anyone spend thousands of pounds of their own money on their workplace? Just seamed an odd thing to put in...


Mr.Flibble  
#9 Posted : 12 May 2011 12:48:11(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble

Look at this from another Angle. Say he had received a shock from the line or been hit by an early train, additional train etc. Which resulted in his death?

The Local residents, the vicar, his family the press would be out for blood demanding why the rail company had allowed this to happen!! The company would be in court explaining why an employee had not followed procedures, why there had been a break down in procedures, which I imagine is how the company viewed it.

Paul Duell  
#10 Posted : 12 May 2011 13:24:27(UTC)
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Paul Duell

This storiy has been in my local paper. Comments on the website largely mirrored those here...until some users of the station in question added their voice. Apparently - and I've not looked into this closely, I'm only passing on what I've read, provided by some people who claim to know the station and the person in question - there's a lot more to this than the papers are telling us.

It seems the stationmaster may not be as white as the driven snow himself, and SWT's silence on the subject suggests to me that they're avoiding prejudicing any future tribunal proceedings.
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