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HSE_Steve  
#1 Posted : 13 May 2011 23:03:08(UTC)
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HSE_Steve

Hi everyone, I work as a manufacturing technician at a high hazard chemical / textile plant, my department is involved in acetic acid recovery and acetic anhydride manufacture. My company make HSE their top priority (my site has just achieved 5 million working hours without a LTA) and as such I have a lot of experience in 'front-line' health and safety, i.e. carrying out RA's, writing and issuing permits to work, maintaining near miss systems etc. I have completed the Nebosh certificate and I'm half way through the Diploma. Unfortunatly the site is due for closure sometime later this year (provisional date is 30th September), however I hope to use this as an opportunity to develop as a HSE practioner, the trouble is on my CV I have never had a job title which mentions HSE and haven't had much experience in the management side of the job. I'm worried this is going to hold me back. Does anyone have any advice on things I could be doing to help in the coming months. I work shifts and as such get quite a lot of time off in the week which I would like to put to good use. Would anyone know of any work experience opportunities (unpaid) - or would companies be unlikely to do this due to vicarious liability issues? I am based in Derby and would be interested in any opportunities in the East Midlands. Any advice to help me kick start my career would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Steve Watson
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 14 May 2011 09:18:49(UTC)
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bob youel

Best of luck; compete your Dip and if possible get an Environmental qualification as well and get into a union as that is a way of moving forward. That said the market at this time is poor in most areas especially for 'new' people & U should attend your local IOSH branch to 'network' and throw your 'job search' net as wide as you can; even undertake door knocking! Once out into the world U will find that the standard that U have worked to is dramatically higher than the average so U need to get to terms with this position as well
HSE_Steve  
#3 Posted : 16 May 2011 13:14:03(UTC)
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HSE_Steve

Thanks for that Bob, going along to the next branch meeting is definatly something I hope to do. I've tried sending open letters to a few of the larger companies in the area, I'll probably intensify this as the deadline approaches! Cheers, Steve
Terry556  
#4 Posted : 19 May 2011 10:56:15(UTC)
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Terry556

Hi everyone I work in manufacturing, and we are feeling the recession, we cant compete with the costs of cheap imports from abroad, we have laid employees off this week, and we are working short time to reduce the costs. We make exceptional products for the building trade and the quality is to the highest standard, I have been looking out and about for jobs, sent a few CV's off but time will tell, we are the biggest employers around this area, we will have to ride it out and see where we end up,
wainwrightbagger  
#5 Posted : 19 May 2011 12:28:36(UTC)
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wainwrightbagger

Hi Steve, If you work where I think you work (Spondon)? Then you're going through the same mill I went through a few years ago within the same business. My employer at the time began with a C and operated a major plant in Spondon producing a lot of cellulosic based materials. I worked at the site in Coventry, long since demolished/altered into a business park. Like you, I was heavily involved in H&S without the title and had the certificate under my belt. I took a gamble on H&S as a career and have never looked back. Took me a while to get my foot in the door and I was forced to take temporary jobs for about 18 months to keep the mortgage paid - crisp factory, medical products factory, but eventuallyy I got offered a job as a H&S Officer in a prison. A few job changes down the road and I've carved a decent fresh career for myself. My advice is keep on doing what you're doing. I did some H&S work for free for a couple of local firms just to keep my hand in supporting their H&S people and I maintained a portfolio, keeping evidence of what I'd done in my previous life too. Make sure you get this sort of thing before redundnacy happens and make sure you get permission off your boss before as well of course. I found this to be no problem so long as the material was not commercially sensitive and my boss understood what I was trying to acheive. Complete the diploma and maintain a level of CPD and keep on trying. If you get an interview, practice, practice and practice to make sure you convince them that you know your stuff and use examples. You might have to suffer a drop in salary, but it will recover. Good luck mate!
HSE_Steve  
#6 Posted : 19 May 2011 13:06:48(UTC)
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HSE_Steve

Cheers for that, I do indeed work where you think! Really encouraging what you said. Can I ask how you went about doing the unpaid work? Did you cold call / mail the companies? Thanks, Steve
wainwrightbagger  
#7 Posted : 19 May 2011 16:38:59(UTC)
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wainwrightbagger

I got the free work through networking. Fellow redundancee's who worked for new organisations who got my foot through the door, my brother's workplace and through friends. I did try the cold calling but got no-where, I think people get a bit worried about what you might find/say, but if you're known to them there is a feeling of trust. Exploit your network of contacts, it's surprising how many people in different businesses you know when you start to write it all down. Give them a ring and see what happens. Do get the diploma though... it will really strengthen you're employability prospects.
Fletcher  
#8 Posted : 20 May 2011 22:11:03(UTC)
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Fletcher

Steve, Is there any opportunity at your current work to be a safety rep/rep of safety or to officially help the safety department? I realise this may be short term but it would be a start. I don't know if you are doing your CPD now but if you are not I would advise that you start so that you have some practical experience recorded when you finish your Diploma. One word of caution if you do offer advice to other companies make sure that you have Professional Indemnity cover by those companies or take out your own otherwise you could be exposed. Take Care
DNW  
#9 Posted : 21 May 2011 10:19:53(UTC)
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DNW

Hi Steve, I was in the same position as you towards the end of 2009. Redundancy was looming and I'd already decided to go for a H&S based role. I bit the bullet and self funded the Construction Cert (which ate my humble savings) but after 25 years on the ground in the Utilites sector tough decisions had to be made. I then found myself unemployed with a Nebosh Construction Cert. Replies to applications were almost non existent, so I bit the bullet again and dipped into my redundancy and did exactly what Bob in the above post advises, I took the Nebosh Environmental Management Cert. This almost certainly helped me get my first position 15 months ago. Massive drop in salary but you have to start somewhere. I start a new job as H&S Manager in 4 weeks and again without the Environmental Cert I know I wouldn't have got it. And my salary will be back up to fighting weight. The company were asking for Nebosh Dip but I belive the Environmental Management Cert was just as attractive to them as they have all three management systems in place. The classroom based Environmental Management Cert cost me £1000 give or take but I'm sure you can now get it far cheaper. In the long term if you persevere and stay focused whatever you pay out you'll get back ten fold. Good luck
HSE_Steve  
#10 Posted : 22 May 2011 14:37:06(UTC)
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HSE_Steve

Thanks for the advice everyone. I'll look into doing some kind of environmental qualification, as has been said so many jobs involve both that it could limit me without it. Cheers, Steve
Wood28983  
#11 Posted : 23 May 2011 11:05:00(UTC)
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Wood28983

What is your current job title? If you want to make the safety bits stick out I would just put them in brackets eg 'Acid Operator (including Health & Safety)' Then anyone skimming job titles will see enough to get them to read the bit about 'job responsibilities'
chris42  
#12 Posted : 26 May 2011 12:12:10(UTC)
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chris42

Hi Steve I was made redundant at the end of 2009 and I agree with what the others are saying. The other thing you should note, as I was not made aware of my local benefits office is that when you are made redundant and I think threat of redundancy, there is funding up to £2500 for training ( note I think you can only do one course). All you have to do is show that it is necessary to have the qualification ( ie show job ads calling for the NEBOSH dip and Environmental qual). You could also consider lead auditor training (18001). You need every advantage possible as jobs are few and far between. All the best Chris
HSE_Steve  
#13 Posted : 27 May 2011 11:49:15(UTC)
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HSE_Steve

Thanks Chris, I wasn't aware of that. Hopefully it'll pay for my last module. cheers, Steve
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