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Nicholl19157  
#1 Posted : 24 May 2011 14:25:21(UTC)
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Nicholl19157

I am the safety officer for a conservation charity and have come up against a bit of a puzzler. In the HSE’s Indg317 Chainsaws at Work” there is the following statement: It is recommended that all chainsaw operators have regular refresher/update training to ensure they work to industry best practice and maintain their levels of competence. The suggested intervals for such training are: • occasional users – every two to three years; • Full-time users – every five years. My question is what is an occasional user? The reason for the question is that due to the requirements of the “Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981” we hang up our chainsaws for the breeding season from the 1st March to 31st Aug. During the remaining months both staff & volunteers carry a Chainsaw with them whilst undertaking habitat work, they may not use it every day but it is with them. Are they occasional users?
Leslie3048  
#2 Posted : 24 May 2011 15:19:44(UTC)
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Leslie3048

Difficult; but I would say treat them as full-time users. I think that occasional users are those who only pick it up occasionally i.e. once or twice a year?
DNW  
#3 Posted : 25 May 2011 09:02:06(UTC)
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DNW

Yes, difficult one. Because of the hazardous nature of the work I'd prefer to err on the side of of caution. Personally full time would suggest an arboriculturalist who has to use a chainsaw every day to earn a living. With your work it's more of a task that has to be done occasionally and then only on certain days during 6 months of the year. I suppose you could say it's like riding a bike but riding a bike isn't going to cut through a main artery.
redken  
#4 Posted : 25 May 2011 09:05:46(UTC)
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redken

All of those users who are not full time users!
Guru  
#5 Posted : 25 May 2011 09:17:34(UTC)
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Guru

As already suggested, occasional users sound a little too fuzzy for me so I'd go down the line of full-time users for all.
ahoskins  
#6 Posted : 25 May 2011 10:16:25(UTC)
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ahoskins

Actually, if you want to err on the side of caution, you should treat them as occasional users and provide them with the more frequent refresher training. That's what I would do in the circumstances, but doing so obviously incurs additional cost. Alan
DNW  
#7 Posted : 25 May 2011 11:09:40(UTC)
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DNW

I thought that was what I'd said?
ahoskins  
#8 Posted : 25 May 2011 13:50:19(UTC)
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ahoskins

Hi DNW, Not clearly enought it appears... :-) Guru seems to have thought so too. Best wishes.
Guru  
#9 Posted : 25 May 2011 15:37:38(UTC)
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Guru

Looking into it, occasional or basic users & professional or more frequent users are defined as: Occasional or basic users: Someone who intends to use a chainsaw but does not intend to work in forestry or arboriculture or fell trees more than 200mm in diameter. Generally these users will be working e.g. in agriculture, landscaping, fencing/hedging, environmental conservation or simple highways maintenance. Professional or more frequent users: Someone working in forestry and arboriculture or carrying out higher risk work, for example felling trees greater than 200mm in diameter, working from a rope and harness or dealing with windblow or hung up trees. http://www.hse.gov.uk/fo...tors/ag_food/1_04_02.pdf
Guru  
#10 Posted : 25 May 2011 15:43:20(UTC)
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Guru

So the type of chainsaw work is the critical factor here......not how oftain they use a chainsaw as everyone had thought.
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