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Auchie00  
#1 Posted : 09 June 2011 08:43:57(UTC)
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Auchie00

Guys, I am asking this question as I want other peoples oppinion, my own answer is yes. Would you deem it suitable to conduct a RA/JHA or JSA on various stationary machinery within a mechanics workshop area. I ask this as my direct supervisor says no, my argument is that a qualitive assessment must be undertook along with other factors to determine the risks associated. My take is that RA/JHA or JSA are the same effectively only that companies define them different, may go as far as to say a JHA is a bit more specific. My supervisor says that you cannot use a RAor JHA for a stationary piece of equipment only a Standard Operating Procedure. I am based and working in Australia just in case. Chris
Kate  
#2 Posted : 09 June 2011 08:52:02(UTC)
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Kate

Well, of course you can do an RA etc for the use of any piece of equipment. I wonder if the supervisor means that the SOP is the outcome of the risk assessment process so everything is covered by it and a separate document recording the RA is not required? Or alternatively that the format your company uses for RA may not be suited to the equipment?
Auchie00  
#3 Posted : 09 June 2011 09:37:58(UTC)
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Auchie00

kate, My supervisor states that the SOP is a constructed stand alone document, our company uses a JHA form which is a qualitative document utilising Job steps-Hazads-Risk-Controls-Residual. They also utilise a Work Instruction document which is basically a SSOW document, now today I see a new document that is called a SOP. Getting very confused to be honest and reackon there may be a bit more to this than one opinion against another. My own take on a hierarchy of documents is: 1. Risk Assessment (all tasks and machinery must be recorded so as to ascertain all relevent hazards) 2. Method Statement/SSOW/SOP (these are documents to analyse step by step a job/task) If you have a MS/SSOW or SOP you must infact have a RA/JHA/JSA to establish the level of risk associated. Chris
Kate  
#4 Posted : 09 June 2011 11:23:09(UTC)
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Kate

I entirely agree that a MS (or its equivalents) must be based on a RA (or one of its equivalents) to be any good. However, it's not necessarily the case that there is a separate RA document. I see risk assessment as a thought process, not a document. The document just records it. I don't know Australian legislation, but in the UK the legal requirement is to record the significant findings of the RA - and it would be perfectly possible for a MS (etc) to contain all the significant findings and so satisfy that requirement.
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