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Dear All
I am looking for some help - has anyone ever seen a Construction Phase Plan that actually gets used on site and does not just sit in a corner collecting dust? If so I would be very much appreciate the opportunity to look at your document; otherwise has anyone got any good ideas on how to make a construction phase plan user friendly. Our organisation has had several attempts at developing a construction phase plan - one was too large and too onerous to complete and did not get used; the latest is much easier to complete, however it has been criticised for being too generic and in addition to this our site personnel do not always spend the time to make it site specific.
Any comments or suggestions you have on this matter are warmly welcomed :)
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Hello Coen34782
Send me a PM with your email address. I have one you can look at. Not saying it is perfect but maybe you can get some ideas from it.
Regards,
Adrian
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Hi Coen34782
We use a Construction Phase Plan we would be pleased for you to take a look at, Ours are regularly used for large projects and accepted by several County Councils, although each of them are site specific, CC's have their own "preferences for inclusions" If you wish to forward your email address i will forward.
Sally
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I've sent you a pm with details of a CPP currently on the go.
It is used on site and does get updated with method statements and the fire risk assessment reviews and anything else that comes in new.
I am H&S consultant for the PC on this project so manage the CPP myself.
I know what you mean by CPPs not being used on sites as I inspect sites and very rarely do I see a CPP up to date.
This site has been inspected by both the CDM C and the H&S Manager for the Client and no adverse comments made.
The CPP is now in two lever arch files and due for a third to be added, there is that much information available.
I may add that the project is cladding the walls of a road tunnel so not much major works at all, still lots of info gathered.
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The Construction plan should be constructed as per appendix 3 of the CDM Regs (L144)
The plan should mention all planned work but it does not need to go into detail for future work (the plan can be updated and another revision issued during different stages where the specific planned tasks at that time can be detailed.)
I would not include such items as Method statements or risk assessments of any type, however the arrangements for managing these details should be included.
I ensure that any site that I am involved in the CPHSP is published and available on site to all relevant persons.
If the file gets to big you only need to ensure relevant parts of the CPHSP is made available to contractors Reg 24 (c)
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Its down to the culture of the company its client type and some similar things as to if any form of any type of plan or management system is used or updated
We must not lose site of the fact that a CDM plan [its size & how complicated it is etc] must be suitable & sufficient for the risks present, the activities undertaken and the laws that apply so generic out-line template examples are OK to have available to get a 'reality' plan started but plans should then be made specific noting that the technical, contractual, financial, planning application, licensing, environmental and QA sides of any project are very detailed so why should the H&S side be any different?
The problem we have is that people do not see any personal benefit to having and operating such H&S plans
Most importantly; in my view; is that the plan is also a management system it is not a just a plan! A plan tells U about what you intend to do and the management system gets you there so both are inseparable but time and again I have seen plans that present U with great aims & objective but no real way of achieving those A&O's
Again this shows a gaping hole in some CDM plan 'evaluators' competence areas
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Hi Coen34782
If you PM me you email, i'll forward you a couple of the CPP's that i have used on various projects. I also have a typical example of a CDMC's evaluation report for CPP's that may be of interest.
regards
Kenty
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In my experience the CPP can be used to contain all relevant health and safety documents in the one place.
I am visiting a site today where there will be different folders for CPP, induction training records, risk assessments, method statements, SWMP, subby training records, fire risk assessment, etc. etc.
I keep all in the one place which makes finding the docs easy.
My CPP starts off in accordance with CDM then builds up to be a full working document.
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